WHo has a right to inspect flight tickets???

AncientAlien · Post by **AncientAlien** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:27 pm

Hi All

My attention was recently drawn to the possibility that my human rights could have been compromised and violated by Immigration officers who in the past have demanded to inspect my flight tickets whilst travelling dry.gif What legal justification do they have to check passengers' tickets, I thought their job was to ensure that only those with the right Visa documents are allowed into the country huh.gif What reason could an immigration officer give, to inspect my tickets?
But on the other hand, I cannot say they are entirely wrong to demad to see my flight ticket afterall I have, in the past submitted my flight tickets to embassies to prove my itinerary and obtain the respective country's visa. What do I say to the next immigration officer who demands a glimps of my tickets? Do I reply, "No officer, the visa documents were not stamped on the tickets!"

republique · Post by **republique** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:06 pm

AncientAlien wrote:Hi All

My attention was recently drawn to the possibility that my human rights could have been compromised and violated by Immigration officers who in the past have demanded to inspect my flight tickets whilst travelling dry.gif What legal justification do they have to check passengers' tickets, I thought their job was to ensure that only those with the right Visa documents are allowed into the country huh.gif What reason could an immigration officer give, to inspect my tickets?
But on the other hand, I cannot say they are entirely wrong to demad to see my flight ticket afterall I have, in the past submitted my flight tickets to embassies to prove my itinerary and obtain the respective country's visa. What do I say to the next immigration officer who demands a glimps of my tickets? Do I reply, "No officer, the visa documents were not stamped on the tickets!"

You posted this in the other forum
And without proper details, no one can answer the question
What were the circumstance
were you on a visitior visa
what passport do you have
provide better details instead of just general outrage

AncientAlien · Post by **AncientAlien** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:47 pm

You posted this in the other forum
And without proper details, no one can answer the question
What were the circumstance
were you on a visitior visa
what passport do you have
provide better details instead of just general outrage[/quote]

Hi
In my experience, you have never had anything positive to contribute to my immigration quests so perhaps, you it's full time now that you get a clue that I am not particularly seeking YOUR advise

(Nothing personal, mate)
Secondly, you are one of those people who have yet to congratulate me on securing the all-so-evasive EEA2 Resident card, therefore, I guess I couldn't call you a well wisher (Don't feel no way, truth is bitter..)
Thirdly, I exhibit no outrage, as I cannot afford annoyance but I know that many people actually think of others, the way they THEMSELVES are, see my arguement?
Moreover, I was not pre-warned that it would be an offence to repeat an immigration query in this forum if the same issue has already has been started in another forum elsewhere...
Now, although the background details are quite self-explanatory, I will expand the background details to the good people out there who are neither confrontational nor provocative to me with their responses to my postings and YOU can, grab a seat, watch and read how humble peeps reason about things and time with something called "mutual respect and honour". Be my guest.

Background details:
As a citizen of ANY country on planet earth, if I have ANY kind of visa from ANY country on my passport and I approach ANY airport in ANY part of the world for ANY type of travel purpose. What right does ANY immigration officer have to demand to inspect ANY flight tickets of mine, instead of (say for instance), my Visas or lack of them?

ModernAlien

86ti · Post by **86ti** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:20 am

AncientAlien wrote:What right does ANY immigration officer have to demand to inspect ANY flight tickets of mine, instead of (say for instance), my Visas or lack of them?

The obvious reason is to check if you would leave the country again within the validness of your visa. For security reason it will also be necessary to record on which flight you entered.

AncientAlien · Post by **AncientAlien** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:02 am

86ti wrote:
AncientAlien wrote:What right does ANY immigration officer have to demand to inspect ANY flight tickets of mine, instead of (say for instance), my Visas or lack of them?
The obvious reason is to check if you would leave the country again within the validness of your visa. For security reason it will also be necessary to record on which flight you entered.

Thanks 86ti!
That was very succint and concise

I am, indeed, elephantly grateful
ModernAlien

republique · Post by **republique** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:50 pm

AncientAlien wrote: Background details:
As a citizen of ANY country on planet earth, if I have ANY kind of visa from ANY country on my passport and I approach ANY airport in ANY part of the world for ANY type of travel purpose. What right does ANY immigration officer have to demand to inspect ANY flight tickets of mine, instead of (say for instance), my Visas or lack of them?
ModernAlien

Total rubbish. It is outrage when you are trying to claim some kind of human rights violation. HR violations are things like people who are being raped, brutalized and killed. Here you are going on about someone checking your ticket. Any citizen from any country can be checked because the IO needs to determine why you are here and if you are allowed to come back. Plain and simple. I am glad that you are checked. You should a bit shady to me.

kampk121 · Post by **kampk121** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:15 pm

take it easy guys... thats just a misunderstanding.

AncientAlien · Post by **AncientAlien** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:35 pm

Total rubbish. It is outrage when you are trying to claim some kind of human rights violation. HR violations are things like people who are being raped, brutalized and killed. Here you are going on about someone checking your ticket. Any citizen from any country can be checked because the IO needs to determine why you are here and if you are allowed to come back. Plain and simple. I am glad that you are checked. You should a bit shady to me.
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I am sorry if I have failed to purchase the modern dictionary that defines 'outrage' as somebody trying to claim some kind of human rights violation.
Nevertheless, I thought I asked you to grab a seat an' siddown, whilst I reason with humble and non-confrontational intellectuals?

Well, if you insist on butting-in, please try and adopt a more civil approach

Moreover, you may be displeased to hear that you are the first person to say I sound shady if that's what you meant in your last comment.
What can I do to appease your vexed spirit, my dear? In a previous posting, I wished you a sunny day but all you have for me is a pointing finger

Do you not realise that when you point a finger at a next man, the other three fingers on the same hand are pointing back at you!
Well then, thank goodness that professionals (that is UK BIA) immigration officers do not consider me shady. Well I admit I am shady 'cos I like to wear the sun-shades in my smilies

Fairtrade · Post by **Fairtrade** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:46 pm

Not to be funny but my home country also checks every tourist return flight ticket. So I don't think the Uk is unique in that situation.

It is basically just to check that you have a return flight home.

Post by **PaperPusher** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:20 am

Also, they need to know which channel you need to go through for customs EU/rest of the world. This effects what you can carry in your luggage. Customs & immigration now work together.

If you do not get let into the UK, they need your ticket to see which airline to fine.

Try refusing to answer questions put to you by an Immigration Officer saying that you believe your human rights are being breached if you have plenty of time to spare.

UKBAbble · Post by **UKBAbble** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:30 am

AncientAlien wrote:Hi All

My attention was recently drawn to the possibility that my human rights could have been compromised and violated by Immigration officers who in the past have demanded to inspect my flight tickets whilst travelling dry.gif What legal justification do they have to check passengers' tickets, I thought their job was to ensure that only those with the right Visa documents are allowed into the country

You are quite wrong about the role of the IO. What other method do you suggest for satisfying the IO where you've arrived from and whether you are able to pay for yourreturn journey (if applicable)?

Richard66 · Post by **Richard66** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:54 pm

In the other thread you seemed to believe the same applies to EEA citizens witihn the EEA as to non-EEA citizens. Of course an Immigration officer can check your tickets if you are Ukranian, Chinese or Kenyan, but not if you are British, German or Polish.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:46 pm

AncientAlien wrote:In my experience, you have never had anything positive to contribute to my immigration quests so perhaps, you it's full time now that you get a clue that I am not particularly seeking YOUR advise Razz (Nothing personal, mate)
Secondly, you are one of those people who have yet to congratulate me on securing the all-so-evasive EEA2 Resident card, therefore, I guess I couldn't call you a well wisher (Don't feel no way, truth is bitter..)
Thirdly, I exhibit no outrage, as I cannot afford annoyance but I know that many people actually think of others, the way they THEMSELVES are, see my arguement?
Moreover, I was not pre-warned that it would be an offence to repeat an immigration query in this forum if the same issue has already has been started in another forum elsewhere...
Now, although the background details are quite self-explanatory, I will expand the background details to the good people out there who are neither confrontational nor provocative to me with their responses to my postings and YOU can, grab a seat, watch and read how humble peeps reason about things and time with something called "mutual respect and honour". Be my guest.

Are you, by any chance, Henry Kissinger?

AncientAlien wrote:Background details:
As a citizen of ANY country on planet earth, if I have ANY kind of visa from ANY country on my passport and I approach ANY airport in ANY part of the world for ANY type of travel purpose. What right does ANY immigration officer have to demand to inspect ANY flight tickets of mine, instead of (say for instance), my Visas or lack of them?
ModernAlien

UK_BR5 · Post by **UK_BR5** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:22 pm

well said benifa!

AncientAlien · Post by **AncientAlien** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:34 pm

[quote="benifa"][quote="AncientAlien"]In my experience, you have never had anything positive to contribute to my immigration quests so perhaps, you it's full time now that you get a clue that I am not particularly seeking YOUR advise (Nothing personal, mate)
Secondly, you are one of those people who have yet to congratulate me on securing the all-so-evasive EEA2 Resident card, therefore, I guess I couldn't call you a well wisher (Don't feel no way, truth is bitter..)

Are you, by any chance, Henry Kissinger?

No, I am not Henry Kissinger and I DO NOT aspire to be anyone than who I am, ModernAlien, seen? Learn that!
Moreover, I stand by my first paragraph in your qute, that is, YOU are one of those (along with Republic) who have yet to wish me well regarding my success with the EEA2 Resident card and for your information, until you do so, I have no reason to deem you a friend. No hard feelings, thousands of people visit this forums and I know I won't be misssed if I put you on ignore, but please, as far as East is from West, stay far from me and my posts, ok?

Also, this is not question Time, so I would not welcome any more unsolicited, unwarranted, provocative and unnecessary sarcasm-laden, hypocrytical questions from one whom I scarcely consider to be a wellwisher...

AncientAlien, you didn't do yourself any favors when, on Sunday 5th April, you took it upon yourself to spam 32 threads (below), with your "advertisement" for the well known saynoto0870.com website:
One thing that I personally love about Immigrationboards.com, is our friendly, welcoming and non-judgmental atmosphere. It's great that you've joined, AncientAlien. I hope you keep posting. Just one thing though, please think a bit more before you post, try not to rub people up the wrong way, and finally - please - no more spamming!

Seen. I am appalled that your sense of fairnes, dignity, intellectual honesty, academic sincererity, equal rights and justice, did not instruct you to add to the above 'critical statement' of yours, that I had already posted another message in the forum explaining the reason behind my un-selfish actions to which you refer, as well as reassuring other forum users that there would never be a repeat! So what are you trying to achieve here with your latest 'Broadcast' of my previous postings?
Plus, nobody else in these forums, except the die-hard, most unforgiving souls, (whose heart is cold as ice and whose life depends on malice, strife, grudge, finger-pointing and recriminations) have found it hard to forgive the incident in question and move on to better things such as achieving their original purpose of visiting this forum

Anyway, the die is cast, the breeze has blown and we have seen the fowls arse

Yes, your matter will be described with an African adage: You are like the bat that cleverly hangs upside down, so that it can spy up on the poor bird's skirt One thing though, PLEASE THINK A BIT MORE before you read my next posts (let alone b/4 you reply!) You have rubbed me up the wrong way, and until you expressely congratulate me on my EEA2 success (as all other genuinely-friendly, wellwisher forum-users have done), I am not keen to hear from you and I will hope this will represent my last correspondence to you whatsoever

shandave2001 · Post by **shandave2001** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:55 pm

AncientAlient

Hopefully you got answer to ur question. I am agree Republique thin ice do no good in this board apart from seeking confrontation and wasting others time. I don't know who told him this forum was place for a angry and sad man. How many people he has confronted, ask Richard 66.

The problem is few self assumed clever though third class immigration advisors think they have answers to all the questions.

AncientAlien · Post by **AncientAlien** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:59 pm

shandave2001 wrote:AncientAlient

Hopefully you got answer to ur question. I am agree Republique thin ice do no good in this board apart from seeking confrontation and wasting others time. I don't know who told him this forum was place for a angry and sad man. How many people he has confronted, ask Richard 66.

The problem is few self assumed clever though third class immigration advisors think they have answers to all the questions.

I am the most easy going and humble man you could ever come across and although I understand that everyone cannot be happy-go-lucky like me, I certainly don't expect people to be confrontational to me! If they have a grudge with the Home Office and they want to come here and vent their anger, they better know who they are dealing with. They carry bad-mind and they are grudgeful and they don't have the common courtesy to congratulate you when all goes well for you. Then they wanna come to town and flex like dirty chewing-gum! Over what? They better be humble or good or be careful...

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