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Were you already on IGS? and were you going from IGS to PSW?khurramuk wrote:hi guys,
my igs extension is refused due to the false documents from college, lcmit didnt confirm my diploma and i have got refusal from homeoffice today and right of appeal guys please give me any sugession what should i do. thanks.waiting for your reply.
Then appeal you have nothing to lose. On their rejection letter what exactly they have said to you? You do need a good solicitor who can represent you and who can put a strong case forward. But you have a good chance of winning. If you have any coursework or assignments with you take those with you on your hearing day. I have came across few cases where the judge allowed the appeal based on the evidence the appeallant has provided. Dont lose hope.khurramuk wrote:london college of management and it, and also yes it is in list of ukba
Then i would advise you to contact your college and get a letter of confirmation from college and send it to AIT when you send your appeal papers it would be fine.khurramuk wrote:they said that they have evidence that i was not registered student in lcmit as college didnt confirm my diploma,thats why refuse my application.there is no other reason for refusal they gave me.
If thats the only refusal mentioned in the rejection letter then there won't be any other issues. You need to get your paperwork sorted and get in touch with college and get a proof and then get a lawyer. If you get the proof which is authentic then you dont even need a solicitor. You will win the appeal if you were a genuine student.khurramuk wrote:is there any other reason other than college, as i alreday mentioned that college confirmed them that i was not registered student.thats why they refuse my application.
which diploma u got and did they offer. and whay did u send college documents bec its not igs to psw requirement. thtsway they conformed.jack199 wrote:If thats the only refusal mentioned in the rejection letter then there won't be any other issues. You need to get your paperwork sorted and get in touch with college and get a proof and then get a lawyer. If you get the proof which is authentic then you dont even need a solicitor. You will win the appeal if you were a genuine student.khurramuk wrote:is there any other reason other than college, as i alreday mentioned that college confirmed them that i was not registered student.thats why they refuse my application.
Hope that helps. Keep faith and put your appeal in ASAP and pls dont make any mistakes in your paperwork this time, cover all the avenues.
Surprised decision that you got refusal from HO for extention to stay under Tier-1 PSW Transitional Arrangements (IGS->PSW). and as you said you got refusal becoz your diploma is not varified.khurramuk wrote:hi guys,
my igs extension is refused due to the false documents from college, lcmit didnt confirm my diploma and i have got refusal from homeoffice today and right of appeal guys please give me any sugession what should i do. thanks.waiting for your reply.
i agree with you HO can check old records. but in transitional arrangements if the person is not claiming any points for any diploma then how he can get a refusal on the bases of that his diploma is not verified....can you please explain what is a general grounds?PaperPusher wrote:They could have checked with the college even if he didn't send the certificate in, don't forget they have the previous forms and perhaps even copies of college documents. If it was a bogus certificate he could have been refused on general grounds.
So, in short, leave should normally be refused if someone used a bogus document even if this is in some previous application. They may not be refused if, for example, they are seeking to stay as a spouse switching from a student, but otherwise pretty much guaranteed a refusal if you get caught or getting leave depended on that document.Part 9 - General grounds for the refusal of entry clearance, leave to enter or variation of leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom.....
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Grounds on which leave to remain in the United Kingdom is to be refused
(1) the fact that variation of leave to enter or remain is being sought for a purpose not covered by these Rules.
(1A) where false representations have been made or false documents or information have been submitted (whether or not material to the application, and whether or not to the applicant's knowledge), or material facts have not been disclosed, in relation to the application.
Grounds on which leave to remain in the United Kingdom should normally be refused
(2) the making of false representations or the failure to disclose any material fact for the purpose of obtaining leave to enter or a previous variation of leave;
PaperPusher wrote:http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... les/part9/
So, in short, leave should normally be refused if someone used a bogus document even if this is in some previous application. They may not be refused if, for example, they are seeking to stay as a spouse switching from a student, but otherwise pretty much guaranteed a refusal if you get caught or getting leave depended on that document.Part 9 - General grounds for the refusal of entry clearance, leave to enter or variation of leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom.....
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Grounds on which leave to remain in the United Kingdom is to be refused
(1) the fact that variation of leave to enter or remain is being sought for a purpose not covered by these Rules.
(1A) where false representations have been made or false documents or information have been submitted (whether or not material to the application, and whether or not to the applicant's knowledge), or material facts have not been disclosed, in relation to the application.
Grounds on which leave to remain in the United Kingdom should normally be refused
(2) the making of false representations or the failure to disclose any material fact for the purpose of obtaining leave to enter or a previous variation of leave;
That is my take anyway.
People who got refused due to deception becauser of a bogus PGDip say, are in cloud cukoo land if they think they can make a subsequent student application and all will be forgiven.
Just my two pence.
as if HO verify earlier to give grant of leave under IGS so their records definitely shows that they had verified all degrees from institution via HO standard verification procedure.PaperPusher wrote:It also mentions a "previous variation of leave". Perhaps UKBA did not check all of them. It doesn't matter how points are awarded in the slightest, if you got the previous leave by using deception it is pretty strong grounds, nay rock solid grounds for a refusal when it comes to work and study routes. If someone gets away with it once, doesn't mean that they will on the next application.
The original poster has gone quiet now in any case.
Paperpusher is right.HO has right to cancel visa anytime if they find any sort of fradulent activities.But why HO didn't check prior to issuing visa?And now they are doing lots of check which includes extended check, check through college,visiting college etc.Consequently, big delay in the processing of applications.PaperPusher wrote:Perhaps getting their file under the data protection act is a good idea. It will not help them if UKBA did not contact the college when they granted leave to remain under IGS however.
London College of Management and IT is still a listed body as far as I am aware, so it seems the college is genuine, but the diploma is bogus.
Paperpusher is right.HO has right to cancel visa anytime if they find any sort of fradulent activities.But why HO didn't check prior to issuing visa?And now they are doing lots of check which includes extended check, check through college,visiting college etc.Consequently, big delay in the processing of applications.PaperPusher wrote:Perhaps getting their file under the data protection act is a good idea. It will not help them if UKBA did not contact the college when they granted leave to remain under IGS however.
London College of Management and IT is still a listed body as far as I am aware, so it seems the college is genuine, but the diploma is bogus.