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Errr... point of correction! As a non-EU spouse of a Polish citizen who is exercising his treaty rights in another EU state (eg working in UK), you will not need a schengen visa to enter Poland!mourad wrote:same if you want to go to poland and you are married to a polish national you will need a schengen visa while you wont need it if you are traveling to the other counties with your eea partner/spouse of course .
If you have a UK Residence Card endorsed in your passport, then your French partner is obviously exercising his treaty rights in the UK, and you can go to France without a schengen visa! When they say that a spouse of a French national must apply for a visa to enter France, what they actually mean is that this is for spouses of French citizens who have not exercised their treaty rights in another country! For some wierd reason, quite a number of consulate websites do not make any effort to make this 'exception' clear.reginacarlson wrote:Hello everyone! I'm Regina and I'm a new member here.
I'm married to a French national and would like to ask some clarifications regarding travelling to France with an EEA2 residence card.
I always thought that the non-EEA national can travel to France with just the UK issued residence card but I came across the French Embassy's website today and found out that foreign spouse of French nationals are now an exception to the visa free travel???
Am I reading and understanding this all wrong or am I just in denial? Does this mean that since my husband is French and an exception to the rule that I now need to apply for a Schengen visa when travelling to France?
Note as from March 2009, The foreign spouse of a EU national (except French national) may enter France without visa if they are holding a valid travel document, a valid UK residence permit with the endorsement "family member of EEA national" and if they are meeting up or travelling with the EU national. If you do not meet the set criteria, you will need to apply for a visa to travel to France and both the spouse’s valid EU passport AND the marriage certificate are requested. However, you may apply for a short stay Schengen visa, i.e. pay the visa administrative fees and provide all requested documents (proof of activity, of financial means of support, of travel and of insurance).
Is this for sure? It's so hard without any written proof from the embassy. I've read quite a few horror stories here in this forum about EU nationals married to non-EU who were deported upon arrival to a Schengen state because the Immigration Officer doesn't know anything about the directive.If you have a UK Residence Card endorsed in your passport, then your French partner is obviously exercising his treaty rights in the UK, and you can go to France without a schengen visa! When they say that a spouse of a French national must apply for a visa to enter France, what they actually mean is that this is for spouses of French citizens who have not exercised their treaty rights in another country! For some wierd reason, quite a number of consulate websites do not make any effort to make this 'exception' clear.
Yeah i know that, i'm guessing that there's still a French visa of some sort though with the exception of the working holiday visas.Obie wrote:Yes i meant Schengen Visa.ribena wrote:hi Obie
when you mentioned "...are still required to get a visa. " , do you mean Schengen Visa?
Meats, France is part of Schengen and hence issue Schengen Visa.
I hope that we abandon the EEA family permit too. The fact that, pure example only, a Pole can bring his non-EEA wife into the UK free of charge if he applies in Poland yet a UK national has to stump up £600 or so for the same privilege is quite frankly an outrage!Obie wrote:I found it a bit queer that an intelligent man like you meats wouldn't know that. I just thought that stuff we were discussing earlier might be taking its toll.
Ribena, it looks like some people are doing a great job indeed.
We still have a long way to go in convincing member states to fulfill their obligations and abide by the rules. The French are certainly heading in the right direction.
I hope the UK also see sense and abandon the EEA family Permit, as they seem isolated at the moment, with their friend Ireland.
Well it's definitely a consideration what with recent events. Still, the only place that i'd go to in Europe is Spain as i speak the language. Well it's a bit rusty as i haven't spoken it since i left uni.Obie wrote:Meats, if you would care to exercise you treaty rights in another memberstate, courtsey of your British Citizenship, i am sure the same rights will be awarded to your overseas wife- that is if you intend to have one of course.
Recent statistic show that only a tiny proportion of community citizens exercise treaty rights in another state. Without assurance that their non-EEA partners will be allowed to travel with them, these small proportion of people might be discouraged from doing so. They do bring economic benefits in terms of taxes and trade to the countries they go to , incidentally.
The UK may abandon the EEA FP (very unlikely as there would be stlll a need for entry clearance for visa nationals) but they still cannot charge EEA nationals as that would violate community rights. £600 is indeed outrageous but that's a problem of the UK.meats wrote:I hope that we abandon the EEA family permit too. The fact that, pure example only, a Pole can bring his non-EEA wife into the UK free of charge if he applies in Poland yet a UK national has to stump up £600 or so for the same privilege is quite frankly an outrage!
I think this the case if your passport doesn't says EEA family member of ______ name of (EEA national). Even if you have PR in UK if issued under the UK immigration law, you still need a schengen visa even if you're married to French national. But if your visa says Family member of an EEA national then automatically you also have the right as of any other eea national, that's why you don't need a schengen visa when travelling with your french husband. But some EU countries have different interpretation of this. so just to make sure check it first with the concerned embassy.pdykid wrote:"Note as from March 2009, The foreign spouse of a EU national (except French national) may enter France without visa " this is news to me.
But family members of French citizen (who is visa nationals) may be requested to attend the Visa Section with the visa national, this is alwa
My friend who is French recently Applied visa for his wife (non-eeu, even she has PR in UK)
But its strange why French non-eu spouse need visa, when an other Eu's non-eu wife with UK EEA2 doesn’t need one? Mmmm
By the way French consulate always ask the French national to registered at the Consulate, i.e. "inscrit au registre des Français établis hors de France":
If anybody not done yet, its easy can apply from French consulate website with scanned documents and its free service.
https://www.consulfrance-londres.org/rd ... choix1.php