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If you're going there in the company of, or to join, your spouse the Schengen visa must be issued free of charge and as soon as possible.kadsac wrote:Do u think there will be any problems getting a schengen visa as i have a stamp on my passport from the BHC islamabad.
No. EU Directive 2004/38/EC pretty much guarantees you a visa, as the family member of an EU national.kadsac wrote:Don't you think it will be more difficult to get the Irish Visa because it shares borders with UK and you can go in and out without a visa?
Yes. But if the baby were born in France or Sweden, he or she would not be also a French or Swedish citizen. Born in Ireland, however, and the baby would be also an Irish citizen.kadsac wrote:And don't the baby get British Nationality anyway because my wife is British?
I think that's cos UK and Ireland have a special relationship, after all, we've been blowing each other up far before Islam started doing it....benifa wrote:No. EU Directive 2004/38/EC pretty much guarantees you a visa, as the family member of an EU national.kadsac wrote:Don't you think it will be more difficult to get the Irish Visa because it shares borders with UK and you can go in and out without a visa?
Yes. But if the baby were born in France or Sweden, he or she would not be also a French or Swedish citizen. Born in Ireland, however, and the baby would be also an Irish citizen.kadsac wrote:And don't the baby get British Nationality anyway because my wife is British?
I know - my wit sometimes goes to far...kadsac wrote:Thanks alot for replies so far.
so i guess i should try to get to EU with the wife.
Hmmm Wanderer i appreciate ur advice but about ur other comment i think its wrong to say Islam blows ppl up, its a small minority of so called muslims who have lost their minds and don;t want peace in the world. Islam doesn;t even allow to hurt (let alone kill) a single human being (muslim or non muslim) and true muslims r those who follow this basic rule.
I have nothing against anyone who talk bad things about Islam my only wish is that they do some research and clear there facts about this relegion.
HAHAHA .......... AHEM ......... sorry.Wanderer wrote:I think that's cos UK and Ireland have a special relationship, after all, we've been blowing each other up far before Islam started doing it....benifa wrote:No. EU Directive 2004/38/EC pretty much guarantees you a visa, as the family member of an EU national.kadsac wrote:Don't you think it will be more difficult to get the Irish Visa because it shares borders with UK and you can go in and out without a visa?
Yes. But if the baby were born in France or Sweden, he or she would not be also a French or Swedish citizen. Born in Ireland, however, and the baby would be also an Irish citizen.kadsac wrote:And don't the baby get British Nationality anyway because my wife is British?
Sledgehammer wit - my downfall...
Before anyone starts I'm half Irish so I am allowed to say it...
I know Wanderer well enough to know he meant it as a joke, he's done it a few time to me, but there might be others who might be a bit more sensive than a thick skinned yorkshireman than IWanderer clearly meant it as a joke. A bad, unfunny joke and one that I do not agree with - but it was nevertheless intended as a joke.
How dare you! I am an exiled Lancastrian!batleykhan wrote:I know Wanderer well enough to know he meant it as a joke, he's done it a few time to me, but there might be others who might be a bit more sensive than a thick skinned yorkshireman than IWanderer clearly meant it as a joke. A bad, unfunny joke and one that I do not agree with - but it was nevertheless intended as a joke.
So wat u mean is that if i go to sweden with my wife and we both stay/work there for a while (more than 3 months) but when we decide to come back to the UK then I'll have no problem entering the UK and i will be able to get UK residence?benifa wrote:Separate UK rules from EU rules. The latter over-rule the former.
As a UK national, your partner has the right to reside in Sweden for up to three months, without any conditions or formalities other than the requirement to hold a valid passport. As a member of her family, you have the right to join or accompany her. You both have the right to work there, from the moment you enter the country.
After three months have passed, you both have the right to reside if your UK national partner is either employed, self-employed, enrolled in a course of study or is financially self-sufficient.
If you are working at that time, your partner would be considered self-sufficient - but you (as a family unit) must be able to exist without recourse to public funds. You also must have comprehensive sickness insurance. If your wife is working, however, those two conditions do not apply.
The ECJ ruling on Singh provides that your partner is entitled to be treated as an EEA national, rather than a UK national, should she (you and your child), move back to the UK after have been resident in another Member State, where your partner has been exercising a Treaty right in an economic capacity. The UK interprets this as employment or self-employment.
As such, it would be wise for your partner to get a job in Sweden, before moving back to the UK. Once in the UK, you have the right to be treated as the family member of an EEA national and should apply for a Residence Card of a family member of a Union citizen. Your previous immigration history in the UK is irrelevant.
It is that simple. However, try to make it 6 months in Sweden not 3, to keep the Brits happy. Should matter, but it might be easier for you later in the UK if your partner's been working in Sweden for at least 6 months.kadsac wrote:So wat u mean is that if i go to sweden with my wife and we both stay/work there for a while (more than 3 months) but when we decide to come back to the UK then I'll have no problem entering the UK and i will be able to get UK residence?benifa wrote:Separate UK rules from EU rules. The latter over-rule the former.
As a UK national, your partner has the right to reside in Sweden for up to three months, without any conditions or formalities other than the requirement to hold a valid passport. As a member of her family, you have the right to join or accompany her. You both have the right to work there, from the moment you enter the country.
After three months have passed, you both have the right to reside if your UK national partner is either employed, self-employed, enrolled in a course of study or is financially self-sufficient.
If you are working at that time, your partner would be considered self-sufficient - but you (as a family unit) must be able to exist without recourse to public funds. You also must have comprehensive sickness insurance. If your wife is working, however, those two conditions do not apply.
The ECJ ruling on Singh provides that your partner is entitled to be treated as an EEA national, rather than a UK national, should she (you and your child), move back to the UK after have been resident in another Member State, where your partner has been exercising a Treaty right in an economic capacity. The UK interprets this as employment or self-employment.
As such, it would be wise for your partner to get a job in Sweden, before moving back to the UK. Once in the UK, you have the right to be treated as the family member of an EEA national and should apply for a Residence Card of a family member of a Union citizen. Your previous immigration history in the UK is irrelevant.
it can't be that simple or have i misinterpret what u said?
And are you sure that my previous Immigration history will be irrelevant when i apply for a residence card after staying in sweden for 6 months? only reason i am asking is that instead of going through all the appeal process i can take this EU route as both take 6 months only difference is if we live in sweden i will be able to work and save some money for the babys birth. So shall i still lodge the appeal even if i am goin to sweden?benifa wrote:It is that simple. However, try to make it 6 months in Sweden not 3, to keep the Brits happy. Should matter, but it might be easier for you later in the UK if your partner's been working in Sweden for at least 6 months.kadsac wrote:So wat u mean is that if i go to sweden with my wife and we both stay/work there for a while (more than 3 months) but when we decide to come back to the UK then I'll have no problem entering the UK and i will be able to get UK residence?benifa wrote:Separate UK rules from EU rules. The latter over-rule the former.
As a UK national, your partner has the right to reside in Sweden for up to three months, without any conditions or formalities other than the requirement to hold a valid passport. As a member of her family, you have the right to join or accompany her. You both have the right to work there, from the moment you enter the country.
After three months have passed, you both have the right to reside if your UK national partner is either employed, self-employed, enrolled in a course of study or is financially self-sufficient.
If you are working at that time, your partner would be considered self-sufficient - but you (as a family unit) must be able to exist without recourse to public funds. You also must have comprehensive sickness insurance. If your wife is working, however, those two conditions do not apply.
The ECJ ruling on Singh provides that your partner is entitled to be treated as an EEA national, rather than a UK national, should she (you and your child), move back to the UK after have been resident in another Member State, where your partner has been exercising a Treaty right in an economic capacity. The UK interprets this as employment or self-employment.
As such, it would be wise for your partner to get a job in Sweden, before moving back to the UK. Once in the UK, you have the right to be treated as the family member of an EEA national and should apply for a Residence Card of a family member of a Union citizen. Your previous immigration history in the UK is irrelevant.
it can't be that simple or have i misinterpret what u said?
No point.kadsac wrote:So shall i still lodge the appeal even if i am goin to sweden?