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Have you received a refund check yet? (Apr 09 JR)

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Have you received a refund check yet? (Apr 09 JR)

Post by Cane » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:28 pm

I completed and sent the refund form, downloadable from the UKBA web site. I got my ILR via the PEO at Croydon on 2nd of June; the accompanying letter backdating the start of the ILR also refers to a refund check being mailed automatically. No sign yet, but curious if there is anyone who's gotten theirs.

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-Cane

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Post by llNicell » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:07 pm

I applied for one off cost claim on 25th May 2009. Still awaiting for a cheque. I called UKBA Sheffield office and informed me that they are dealing with the claim application received by 20th May.
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Post by llNicell » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:08 pm

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Post by llNicell » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:08 pm

dupli

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Post by Cane » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:05 pm

Thanks 'IINiceII'. When you recieve yours can you please let me know via this thread? I sent my refund form on or about the 4th of June, so not too far behind you.

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Post by Mehr Nazakat Ali » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:27 pm

Please advise

I received HSMP dated 27/07/2004 for 1 year
arived in uk 04/10/2004
first extention received on 27/07/2005 till 27/07/2008
second extension application date 21/07/2008, extension received till 03/09/2011
ILR Received today 24/06/2009 with letter back dating from 05/10/2008.
Have been refused one off check with condition that i had not met 4 year HSMP criteria for indifinite leave to remain.

Please help, I was expecting £750 which seem ....bad debt now

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Post by Cane » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:53 pm

Mehr,

What was the manner of refusal? Did you send the refund form? Also in the letter backdating your ILR was there a reference to a refund? (I believe the letter has a standard form with a promise of a refund in the later paragraphs).

-Cane

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Post by justice_will_reign » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:36 pm

Mehr Nazakat Ali wrote:Please advise

I received HSMP dated 27/07/2004 for 1 year
arived in uk 04/10/2004
first extention received on 27/07/2005 till 27/07/2008
second extension application date 21/07/2008, extension received till 03/09/2011
ILR Received today 24/06/2009 with letter back dating from 05/10/2008.
Have been refused one off check with condition that i had not met 4 year HSMP criteria for indifinite leave to remain.

Please help, I was expecting £750 which seem ....bad debt now
It is not clear in your story above why you were refused the one-off payment. What is the real reasn behind this decision? When were you told that you were not entitled to this payment since you received your ILR just today? Did you applied separately or what?

Also, was your ILR application done by post or at PEO? Thanks

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Post by bani » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:26 pm

justice_will_reign wrote:
Mehr Nazakat Ali wrote:Please advise

I received HSMP dated 27/07/2004 for 1 year
arived in uk 04/10/2004
first extention received on 27/07/2005 till 27/07/2008
second extension application date 21/07/2008, extension received till 03/09/2011
ILR Received today 24/06/2009 with letter back dating from 05/10/2008.
Have been refused one off check with condition that i had not met 4 year HSMP criteria for indifinite leave to remain.

Please help, I was expecting £750 which seem ....bad debt now
It is not clear in your story above why you were refused the one-off payment. What is the real reasn behind this decision? When were you told that you were not entitled to this payment since you received your ILR just today? Did you applied separately or what?

Also, was your ILR application done by post or at PEO? Thanks
This must be the fifth time I've seen these two posts. Mehr, you already started your own thread, is it really necessary to flood this everywhere? You already have ILR, there are people with real immigration problems and they don't post it five times. This is pestering and it's just about money.

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Post by llNicell » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:00 pm

Today, I have received a cheque for second extension fee refund, not cost. Has anyone demanded for a cost which includes solicitor's fee etc & its outcome from UKBA?

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Post by justice_will_reign » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:17 pm

llNicell wrote:Today, I have received a cheque for second extension fee refund, not cost. Has anyone demanded for a cost which includes solicitor's fee etc & its outcome from UKBA?
That's great, I think you're the first to mention that here. Did you receive it automatically or you applied for it?

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Post by llNicell » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:30 pm

I had applied on 26th May. I just had a talk with UKBA person about this refund. He told me that they are refunding only fee, not cost. ( ???)

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Post by ismangil » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:56 pm

Today I have received a cheque for £335, which is what the application fee I paid back in 2006.

In the application, I did put in an extra letter claiming for additional costs, such as the fact that by delaying my ILR application to 2007, I had to pay a much higher (110%) ILR fee, compared to if I had applied directly at 2006.

This extra claim was not addressed at all.

So yes, they are refunding your extension fee, but nothing beyond that.
Perry Ismangil

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Ismangil and llNicell

Post by Filipinas » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:59 pm

Hi, I was just wondering about the scheme you were in, was it a 1+3+3 scheme as well and how early did you actually entered UK from the time you received your stamp? I just want to understand if they still give refund whether or not you did need the 2nd extension or not. Such that, for us, we had the ff. timelines:

Visa date (start of validity) : 25 Feb 2004
UK arrival : 07 Aug 2004
1st extension : 25 Feb 2005 till 2008 (3yrs)
2nd extension : 25 Feb 2008 till 2011 (3 yrs)
In effect we have completed 4 years last year, 07 Aug 2009; we are scheduled to go to Croydon next Monday to get our ILR.

From my reading of the guidelines it seems that we are covered by the refund, despite the fact that we needed the 2nd extension, but others seems to have some other experience.

Thanks in advance.

Filipinas

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Re: Ismangil and llNicell

Post by justice_will_reign » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:39 am

Filipinas wrote: Visa date (start of validity) : 25 Feb 2004
UK arrival : 07 Aug 2004
1st extension : 25 Feb 2005 till 2008 (3yrs)
2nd extension : 25 Feb 2008 till 2011 (3 yrs)
In effect we have completed 4 years last year, 07 Aug 2009; we are scheduled to go to Croydon next Monday to get our ILR.

From my reading of the guidelines it seems that we are covered by the refund, despite the fact that we needed the 2nd extension, but others seems to have some other experience.

Filipinas
From your story line above, you should have completed your 4 yrs in August 2008, which means you still needed the 2nd extension. If that is the case, you will not be entitled to the refund.

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Re: Ismangil and llNicell

Post by bani » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:00 am

Filipinas wrote:Hi, I was just wondering about the scheme you were in, was it a 1+3+3 scheme as well and how early did you actually entered UK from the time you received your stamp? I just want to understand if they still give refund whether or not you did need the 2nd extension or not. Such that, for us, we had the ff. timelines:

Visa date (start of validity) : 25 Feb 2004
UK arrival : 07 Aug 2004
1st extension : 25 Feb 2005 till 2008 (3yrs)
2nd extension : 25 Feb 2008 till 2011 (3 yrs)
In effect we have completed 4 years last year, 07 Aug 2009; we are scheduled to go to Croydon next Monday to get our ILR.

From my reading of the guidelines it seems that we are covered by the refund, despite the fact that we needed the 2nd extension, but others seems to have some other experience.

Thanks in advance.

Filipinas

I've read cases where the refund was declined because they entered after 2 months of EC/visa date, they needed the 2nd extension anyway. Yours is way over 2 months, so no. You can ask them to process the refund and the PEO officer might put it through, but the refund team will just reject it.

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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:31 am

arrival within 28 day of 1 st time visa issued will get refund rest r not meeting the required 4 year rule is opinion of some people

may be correct?

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Post by bani » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:11 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:arrival within 28 day of 1 st time visa issued will get refund rest r not meeting the required 4 year rule is opinion of some people

may be correct?
This is what UKBA wrote some people who got rejected for refund -

"On reviewing your immigration history it is evident that you were required to make a second extension application in order to meet the four years continuous leave requirement and therefore the application was not a direct result of the April 2006 Immigration Rules change."

So yes, they do count the months/weeks/days. But some caseworkers have been sloppy in counting the 28 days from accounts I've read at HSMP forum. 2 months is very easy to spot though.

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Post by llNicell » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:41 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:arrival within 28 day of 1 st time visa issued will get refund rest r not meeting the required 4 year rule is opinion of some people

may be correct?
My visa was granted on 15th May 2003, arrived UK on 16th June 2003. ( apprx 31 days) & I have got refund of second extension fee.

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To refund or not to refund

Post by Filipinas » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 pm

Thanks for the reply. Your explanation is very sensible and made me reread the clause and you must be right (selective understanding I guess). :( I somehow had the impression that the refund was in a way of making up for all the fumbles that they have made, delay in applying for ILR thus delaying us the right for benefits, making us apply for NARIC when we didn't have to have one, having to take ESOL exam when we didn't need to - and yes now, applying for ILR, and shortly Citizenship, with sky-rocket fees.

Don't get me wrong guys, the realisation is just dawning on me that HO has indeed gotten away with it's fund-production scheme to some if not most of us.

Filipinas

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April 09 JR – refund cheque received

Post by Tosan » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:14 pm

Hi Guys,

I received a refund cheque (today – 3rd of July) of £750 for last year’s HSMP to Tier 1 (General) extension.

I got my ILR under the April 09 HSMP JR at the Sheffield PEO office on the 19th of June 09. The letter given to me stating the deemed date of my ILR included the following paragraph:

“As you made a second extension application under either the HSMP or Tier 1 (General) in order to extend your stay beyond 4 years as a result of the April 2006 Immigration Rules change, you are eligible for a one-off payment to cover the additional fee that you paid. We have therefore instructed our payment handing centre to process this. This will be issued in the form of a cheque made payable to the person listed as the main applicant on the extension application and will be sent to the address specified on your form in due course.â€

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Post by Cane » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:29 pm

I am still awaiting my refund check despite writing and emailing the case worker. Are there others still waiting for theirs?

-Cane

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