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Sorry about your trouble Jack. It is beyond my believe that someone could be so heartless, vindictive and obnoxious.jack5 wrote:Hi i wonder if someone can help me
My wife and i separated 5 months ago, she is from originally pakistan, her spouse visa runs out in 4 months and since we separated has been living with her brother.
Our marriage was turbulent, constant arguing, in the end i realised the only reason she married me was to come to uk. we had a big argument the day she left as she demanded i sponsor her mother over on a family visit or she would leave me. i could not beleive this and simply said she should decide her future.
she left and 1 hour later came back with the police, who simply said she wanted to collect her belongings and warned me not to contact her.
i advised police exactly what happened that we only had a row nothing more.
I was in state of shock she had called police over such an issue, but after speaking to a friend was told she had done this as her visa was going to run out and she was most likely going to try applying as victim of domestic violence, my friend also said i was lucky police did not arrest me as that would have strengthened her case. He said she messed up and if he was in her shoes would definately got me arrested, however it was just a row no violence.
i wrote a letter to HO the next day to say we separated and i no longer support any application for ILR or FLR. The HO have acknoledged my letter.
5 months have passed and last week police arrested me as she now is claiming i raped her day she left me and also once before and domestically abused her for last 2 years i am released on bail pending inquiries
i am 100% confident nothing will happen to me regarding these allegations as quite simply i didnt do it.
my question is as the police enquiries could be slow, as they normally are will she be granted ILR or FLR? What will happen if police drop charges or if this goes to court and i'm not guilty does she still get to stay here?
Calm down mate, you need not get worked up about these thing and allow it to affect your normal routine. Remember you are the victim in all of this. Don't allow her to reap you off more of your livelihood than she already has. I know it can be a difficult experience.jack5 wrote:thanks Obie for your advice and support>
Yes i'm a british citezen. my life has turned upside down since she made these allegations. i'm off work with stress. i've never been in trouble with the law ever, i have a good career, all this has almost been destroyed.
i beleive in justice and hopefully the police will see her for what she is.
if i had raped her why didn't she tell police the day she left and collected her belongings under their protection? that way there would have been dna evidence. why now? quite simply because it didn't happen.
so this extension she will get, case pending, will that be FLR?
The reason why she used this route would probably be that the home office has informed her of your withdrawal of sponsorship letter. As a last ditch act of desperation, she decide to embark on this self-destructive mission.
How likely is it that the home office has written to her and notified her i contacted them? Also what would they have likely told her in the correspondence?
I thought they wouldn't have told her anything until she applied for ILR or FLR via DV route. does that mean she has already applied and got an answer from HO? I did not think they were that efficient.
Ot do you think she has not applied yet and they just informed her i contacted them?
I'm so confused.
Jack the spousal visa was only issued because you sponsored her as your spouse. If she ceases to leave with you as husband and wife, she would be living illegally in the UK. She has absolutely no rights at that time.jack5 wrote: How likely is it that the home office has written to her and notified her i contacted them? Also what would they have likely told her in the correspondence?
I thought they wouldn't have told her anything until she applied for ILR or FLR via DV route. does that mean she has already applied and got an answer from HO? I did not think they were that efficient.
Ot do you think she has not applied yet and they just informed her i contacted them?
I'm so confused.
Firstly i don't think you should worry much about the rape charge, it will not even make it to court. You mark my words. I have worked for a Rape victims support group, and i know how strong the burden of proof has to be for the case to reach court. If it does go to court which is 0.01percent likely, you have lots of things in your favour to make the judge throw the case out at the first hearing. Not to mention your good character and character references you will be able to obtain from friends and work colleague.jack5 wrote:Also i dont see my son as a mistake, i love him to bits, i would love to see him, but right now i have to think wat will happen to me.
You know when they got the visa to come to uk, my wife and her family said to me she will not come over to uk unless i buy a house in pakistan next to my inlaws house. They threatened if i dont buy the house i will never see my son again. They used him to get to my money.
At the time i was so desperate for him, i did not care about the money, i sent them £30,000 pounds so they can buy a house. A house that they promised would be half in my name and half in my wifes name.
Thats when she finally came over. Guess what they did buy a house, but my mother inlaw put it in her own name. Its rented out and they get the rent from it.
You know since i married her i went to pakistan 7 times in 3 years.
You know the applications of visas and appeal which i hired a barrister for cost me in total over £7000 pounds.
You know i bought a car for my brother inlaw in pakistan.
I did all this because i loved my wife.
I would have even sponsored her mother over but i simply could not financially do so.
I feel like comitting suicide on some days.
These people have milked me dry and now i feel so humiliated. Some of these things i cant tell anyone as i feel they will blame me for being so stupid for getting in this situation in the first place by letting them walk all over me
Make sure that you do NOT delete those texts despite passing them onto the police. The police here are smothered in bureaucracy so there's a chance that the texts might get misplaced etc. Keep a record of any contact between you and your wife that your wife instigates.jack5 wrote:I was born in pakistan and came over to uk wen i was 3 with my mother just how my son and wife came over. my father was already a british citizen wen i was born.
I already did alk these enquiries when my son was born and was told by a solicitor i could not pass my british status to my son. Hence applied for his pakistani birth certificate, pakistani passport, and visa as a dependant.
I dont want my son to go back to pakistan, as you can see people would do anything to come here, so why should my son have to go back.
However if for this reason she gets to stay here then my life is over. A woman who is capable of doing wat she has done to me is capable of anything. What u have to understand is that people have been wrongly convicted of rape and sent to prison. This could be my fate
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If i think about my son she could talk to me more. She has already sent me several messages after she left saying how she will tell my son bad things about me and then get him to hate me forever. On one text she blatanty has said she will go back to pakistan and change my sons name and bring him back to uk via someone else. on another text she said she will go back and get married again and give my son to her mother to look after.
I have passed all these texts onto the police.
The weirdest thing is 2 weeks before she made the rape allegations against me she sent me texts saying she missed me, loved me, missef having gender with me, and wanted to have gender with me. She also sent me pictures of herself smiling and stating she loved me. All this is with the police. I dont know how she will explain All this while saying i raped her too.
This woman has been blackmailing me so much and now crying rape.
I'm i. Such a bad state. End of the day i can see my son just hating me no matter wat i do, she will just brainwash him.
I know there is no way i will get sole custody, plus i have no intentions of making false allegations against her to get my way.
It's not easy to return to normal but it would be for the best in the long run. From what you've said i'd be very surprised if they didn't drop charges against you. As long as you have reported her to the HO, which you have, and don't support her ILR claim then her visa is technically invalid.jack5 wrote:Hi guys
sorry i've been offline for a few days to sort a few things out. Thanks to all for the kind messages and support. It really means alot to me.
Currently i'm on bail u untill the end of this month. The police said they will investigate, make further enquiries as i gave them me mobile phone as evidence. I have a policeman friend who says i will be bailled a few times before they decide to charge me or drop the case, so this could take several months. This stresses me out even more.
I've decided to go back to work next week and see if i can get back to some normality. You know what the worst thing is? When my brother in law first came into the country on his spouse visa he begged me to help him find a job. Is english was not that good however i got him a job in my company. I actually was the one that interviewed him. Through this job he picked up english quickly and worked there for a year. Problem is he knows people there and i'm worried he might spread these wild stories to humiliate me at work.
I did so much for this guy and his family and they just used me.
jack5 wrote:Hi guys
sorry i've been offline for a few days to sort a few things out. Thanks to all for the kind messages and support. It really means alot to me.
Currently i'm on bail u untill the end of this month. The police said they will investigate, make further enquiries as i gave them me mobile phone as evidence. I have a policeman friend who says i will be bailled a few times before they decide to charge me or drop the case, so this could take several months. This stresses me out even more.
I've decided to go back to work next week and see if i can get back to some normality. You know what the worst thing is? When my brother in law first came into the country on his spouse visa he begged me to help him find a job. Is english was not that good however i got him a job in my company. I actually was the one that interviewed him. Through this job he picked up english quickly and worked there for a year. Problem is he knows people there and i'm worried he might spread these wild stories to humiliate me at work.
I did so much for this guy and his family and they just used me.
Please Jack, stop thinking in that way and be positive.jack5 wrote:In a way i do feel sorry for her that she has stooped so low. it takes guts to go into a police station and get video interviewed and accuse your husband of these wicked things in order to get your stay. I did not know someone could be so cold hearted, i mean this is the woman that gave birth to my offspring and gave me a beautiful boy. How could she do such a thing? What sort of life will she have after all is said and done? What will become of my son?
If i get wrongly convicted and end up in jail, which has happened to people, will that be a fair price for her ILR just because our relationshipn ended? If she suceeds in these wicked ways she gets to stay here, do you think 10 years from now she'll look back and think with a smirk that it was worth it?
I know it's easy for me to say, but i really wouldn't worry about it too much. Just make sure that if your wife contacts you just keep a record of it, don't delete any texts, emails etc and if she phones you then you can always ask your phone provider for a list of all calls received.jack5 wrote:In a way i do feel sorry for her that she has stooped so low. it takes guts to go into a police station and get video interviewed and accuse your husband of these wicked things in order to get your stay. I did not know someone could be so cold hearted, i mean this is the woman that gave birth to my offspring and gave me a beautiful boy. How could she do such a thing? What sort of life will she have after all is said and done? What will become of my son?
If i get wrongly convicted and end up in jail, which has happened to people, will that be a fair price for her ILR just because our relationshipn ended? If she suceeds in these wicked ways she gets to stay here, do you think 10 years from now she'll look back and think with a smirk that it was worth it?