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tom4 wrote:Yes, he is an irish citizen now because his father was an irish citizen when he was born.
Once again. Child is not an Irish citizen, but can become an Irish citizen if an application is made.Obie wrote:Jaj, i understand there are formalities to be met before the child can obtain both citizenship, nevertheless he is entitle to both of them.
I don't want us to go into semantics mate. But i can't seem to find any differences whatsoever.JAJ wrote: Once again. Child is not an Irish citizen, but can become an Irish citizen if an application is made.
Child is a British citizen automatically.
There is a difference.
Oops, that's right, you must first register him in the foreign births register. Section 7 of the act makes a sweeping statement in subsection 1 but then makes an exception later on (until they change it, yet again) - should have read the whole thing.JAJ wrote:He is NOT an Irish citizen automatically as his Irish parent was not born in Ireland or Northern Ireland.tom4 wrote:Yes, he is an irish citizen now because his father was an irish citizen when he was born.
However, he can be registered as an Irish citizen upon application.
Hi JAJ,JAJ wrote:Once again. Child is not an Irish citizen, but can become an Irish citizen if an application is made.
Child is a British citizen automatically.
There is a difference.
This is correct.ca.funke wrote:Hi JAJ,
just to understand it fully:
Does this mean that:
The child is automatically a UK-citizen (=from day 1) simply because it´s born in the UK AND one parent is Irish.
AND
The child is ENTITLED to Irish citizenship from day one, but this is only conferred after a corresponding application?
Thus, if no further steps are taken, the child would remain British only?
If so, how much time is there to register/apply for the Irish citizenship?
(If all this is so I´d apply for Irish citizenship ASAP, to make sure this isn´t changed at some stage...)
Erm, I think JAJ was trying to make that point to you..Obie wrote:Thanks a million Ben. That is the point i was trying to make with Jaj.benifa wrote:
There is a crucial difference between is and entitled to become.
JAJ wrote:Once again. Child is not an Irish citizen, but can become an Irish citizen if an application is made.Obie wrote:Jaj, i understand there are formalities to be met before the child can obtain both citizenship, nevertheless he is entitle to both of them.
Child is a British citizen automatically.
There is a difference.
Child in question is automatically a British citizen from birth. You can apply for an British passport for the child through the normal channels.vkapoor wrote:I still don't get the point reg. British citizenship. Can someone point me to any information regarding this.
Irish citizens who are resident in the UK are considered settled as if they hold an ILR. They have a distinguished status from other EEA nationals who have to meet the five years resident requirement.calai wrote:
• are settled in the UK at the time the child is born
Standard EEA rules do not apply to Irish citizens (well, they do, but there are additional provisions that Irish citizens can take advantage of):calai wrote:How could the child be a British citizen from birth? His parents have not been living in the UK for more than 5 years and I assume they do not have ILR. I hope that child can be a British citizen by birth.
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... iew=Binarystrongbow wrote:@JAJ
Which documents are you quoting the above sections 5.3 and 8.5 from?
Do you have an online link?
Thanks.