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I am affraid you need to apply again for Tier-1 unless you prove that you were employed by UK employer and was deputed outside UK.MSI GEEK wrote:I am planning to switch from HSMP to Tier 1
Inspite of having valid HSMP visa, I never travelled to UK to work because I doing well in a contract overseas and due to job maket conditions prevailing in the UK delayed my entry.
Now, I have enough previous earnings more than GBP 40k/annum to qualify for extension even though it was overseas earnings.
However, I do not have a National Insurance number. Will I qualify for extension if I do not have a NI number?
My contract ended a week ago and currently moving to UK under HSMP visa which I would like to extend into Tier 1 visa soon.
Is extension possible without National Insurance number?
Kindly share related experiences...
ILR/Citizenship needs altleast 5 years of Continuous stay in the UK.push_hsmp wrote:If that was possible, ppl would have got citizenship sitting in their countries. If you are on HSMP you need to be in UK and earning in UK to qualify for extension OR be employed by a UK company and be deputed in some other country (for short periods I suppose).
True but are you suggesting you get HSMP/Tier-1, enter at the fag end of your VISA validity with hardly any earnings in UK and still be allowed to extend under the category? If that were so, it will be a great news for those waiting for the economy to improve.MSI GEEK wrote:ILR/Citizenship needs altleast 5 years of Continuous stay in the UK. HSMP/Tier 1 visa extension eligibilty is different.
I presume it covers persons deputed to a country outside UK by his UK employer. HSMP/Tier-1 is for ppl who contribute to UK economy and intend to make UK as their residence.MSI GEEK wrote:In the extension for Tier 1 form, why have they mentioned overseas earnings?
Absolutely. No doubts about that. We are not discussing about movement in or out of UK BUT eligibility to extend without having worked at all in UK on initial leave.MSI GEEK wrote:If a person does not find a well paid job in the UK, he has every right to work in some other country and return to UK if his visa is still valid.
couldn't agree moreMSI GEEK wrote:ILR/Citizenship criteria is different.
makes me wonder why do you want to come to UK then or extend ur VISA. Another contractor in making? nothing wrong with that though.MSI GEEK wrote:BTW, salaries in Uk are pathetic unless one keeps on contracting. It is the contractors that mint money in UK - not permanent employees.
cheap labour (unskilled) comes from EU countries and not from India, Pakistan or China. I dont see skilled ppl compromising on salary. Cost economics lead to out-sourcing of services and not to in-sourcing of skilled workers. There is a dearth of young, skilled workers in UK & US and therefore the open door policy.MSI GEEK wrote:That is why UK seeks cheap labour from Third World countries like India, etc.
40k!! and you are boasting about it?? I dont know about the IT sector but thts 40% of the starting salary in Banking (Including Bonus).MSI GEEK wrote:I am not in UK , still easily earn more than Pound 40K/year.
and you reckon the salaries have increased now? I mean if you are so negative about UK, why even bother to etend the VISA? Just curious to know - not castigatingMSI GEEK wrote: Cut throat competition in Uk makes salaries very low in UK - that is why I dropped plans to come to Uk earlier.
Yes they dont.MSI GEEK wrote:Someone told that they do not apply UPLIFT RATIO for extension applications.
Unfortunately it does not say anything.MSI GEEK wrote:This is the official reply:
Yes, you can enter the UK anytime within the validity of your visa. However, you should be aware of the requirements to be granted an extension of stay as a highly skilled migrant. Further details can be found on our website www.workingintheuk.gov.uk.
I don't think he can as I guess he only has a bachelor's degree. That's why he wants to have a crack at doing an extension from UK. Correct me if I am wrong Mr Geek.chetanojha wrote:I am affraid you need to apply again for Tier-1 unless you prove that you were employed by UK employer and was deputed outside UK.MSI GEEK wrote:I am planning to switch from HSMP to Tier 1
Inspite of having valid HSMP visa, I never travelled to UK to work because I doing well in a contract overseas and due to job maket conditions prevailing in the UK delayed my entry.
Now, I have enough previous earnings more than GBP 40k/annum to qualify for extension even though it was overseas earnings.
However, I do not have a National Insurance number. Will I qualify for extension if I do not have a NI number?
My contract ended a week ago and currently moving to UK under HSMP visa which I would like to extend into Tier 1 visa soon.
Is extension possible without National Insurance number?
Kindly share related experiences...
Cant figure that out explicitely from the guidance note - either in favour or against. I guess (1) an email to HO could be useful or (2) Input from someone who has submitted extension application with similar circumstances could be of some use.MSI GEEK wrote:Yes, I have only a Bachelor's Degree. Hence, I would like to visa extended rather a fresh application.
I was under the impression that one can extend HSMP to Tier 1
The only criteria being :
Applicant should be in the UK on HSMP visa (Entry possible anytime before visa expires)
He/she could even be unemployed in UK on the day the application is made.
Previous earnings from foreign countries are acceptable, however there is no UPLIFT RATIO.
It is a question of rules allowing or disallowing extension?
My question is:
Is previous earnings from overseas source ONLY adequate for extension?
Or
There is a mandatory UK component to previous earnings needed
Also, I do not want 5 bonus points for UK experience. Atleast 16K of the previous earnings must be in UK for 5 points for UK experience.
Also, I am planning to take up any job in UK (no matter what it pays) to add a UK component to previous eanings if the same is mandatory.
Also, have there been any case, someone has successfully applied for extension being UNEMPLOYED on the date of application.
Remember , you cannot apply uplift ratio though. MSI_GEEK has earned £40K without applying uplift ratio. Guidance note clearaly states it.ashishashah wrote:Ohhhhh....This is GREATTTT NEWS...So one can go to any country,work there,get paid ,and then come to UK at the end of HSMp/TIER 1 extension and extend their visa (provided that they have earned enough in other country)..
I still cannot belive it,as logically HSMP/TIER1 is issued to work in UK,but technically you can get away with this...
You are sounding very arrogant here. Assuming you are Indian, feel bad about your attitude towards own country.MSI GEEK wrote:Working in countries like USA, Canada, Aus/NZ, one can easily earn equivalent of Pounds 40K/annum or more.
Ofcourse, working in third world country like India, one needs to earning around 30 lakh/annum to match 40K pound.
UK is and may always remain my LAST CHOICE. The attitude of many Brits makes one feel sick.
Many highly skilled pros from India leave India before of things like "YES BOSS" culture, dirty politics, rising in the company ONLY as per age and seniority, etc. Who can forget that India was a British colony and all the -ve points are also present in UK.
The rest of UK may be better, but Londoners are very rude and unfriendly.
I am in UK on HSMP and i agree with your above point..Some times they are not upfront in saying this,but its very subtleCVs are filtered as per nationality, work status, etc. I was bluntly told that you cannot be considered for several jobs because of being "non-british"
Majority will disagree you, Whover in that band are very young to qualify for Tier1.MSI GEEK wrote:The average salary of an Indian in UK is GBP 25K/annum.
Source please. I know, majority of people go US through body shoppers who pay @ $60K , that's in boom time. People go to higher salary over the time.MSI GEEK wrote: The average salary of an Indian in USA is USD 80K/annum.
Will you please give a example ?MSI GEEK wrote: I was suprised by the attitude of Brits on a recent visit to UK - of 21st century not very different from UK of 18th century. Could not believe how these Brits still carry the old attitude?
And what's that ?MSI GEEK wrote: The stats say everything...
MSI GEEK wrote: It is very easy to get a visa for the UK, very difficult for the USA -
Some jobs requires security checks, which requires min stay, and citizenship requirement in some cases. If what you are saying is true, no body on this forum would have got job.MSI GEEK wrote: CVs are filtered as per nationality, work status, etc. I was bluntly told that
you cannot be considered for several jobs because of being "non-british"
Every government has right of protecting it's citizens. When you are migrating a country, it's a big decision, and learn to be responsible for that, at least partially.When they launched the PBS, they announced that those who earn more also pay more taxes and contribute to economy - hence biggest weightage to previous earnings for visa extension.
Then, they made it mandatory to have masters degree - zero points for bachelors to keep out the bulk of applicants. Even if a person has very high earning potential, he is not highly skilled if he does not have masters degree - violation of previous preaching.
They were taken to court last time, this change was NOT retrospective.
Now, they are introducing earned citizenship, etc. to further dampen the interest of migrants.
Immigration system fails to inspire the most highly skilled !!!
What these Brits like:
If you come looking for a job, come on your knees.
Attitude matters most in UK rather than performance, skills, experience, etc.