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Have a look at what she said in her previous post.push_hsmp wrote:I dont think thats fraud at all. Not sure why everyone is crying foul. The member is simply asking for a solution to a problem which is "she does not remember her dates of legitimate travels outside UK" ... could happen to anyone I think
In other words she is exploiting loophole in system, and is fraud to manipulate dates.Seda wrote: I am just knowing the gaps of the system and using them for my own benefit. Why is it my fault if the Border Agency is not stamping the passports while leaving the country, and therefore, leaving gaps in the system?
That is still stealing and it is a crime.Vanadil wrote:I was shoping in Boots the other day and the cashier left the till open as a jar fell off a shelf behind her. She turned around to help her colleage clear up the mess and I took all the money and left.
It's not my fault she left the till open with the money in it. I don't view this as a crime.
I agree completely!hsmp_1476 wrote:That is still stealing and it is a crime.Vanadil wrote:I was shoping in Boots the other day and the cashier left the till open as a jar fell off a shelf behind her. She turned around to help her colleage clear up the mess and I took all the money and left.
It's not my fault she left the till open with the money in it. I don't view this as a crime.
Get SAR report from Home Office asking them to provide details of you leaving and entrying(landing cards) country.Seda wrote:Hi,
I have a question regarding the UK entry/exit stamps.
On my passport, I have date stamps for each UK entry but there is no stamp for any UK exit. While entering to Turkey, women have right to ask the border officer not to put any entry stamp on the passport. (As they already log the passport numbers and entry/exit dates into the computer system and passport stamps are mandatory only for men for militarty service purposes).
I have used this right and therefore I don't have any Turkey entry stamps for some of my trips. I don't have exist stamps for those trips either. So, the only evidence of my UK absence is the UK Entry stamp.
Now, as part of ILR application, I need to list my absences and I am wondering whether I could give any date as UK exit date (let's say just 2 days before the UK entry stamp). I am not registered with the IRIS system.
Do you think that they can trace my UK absences (basically UK exists) by another method apart from checking my passport stamps?
I would appreciate any feedback as my total real absences are exceeding 180 days for 4 years. But even I cannot tell now which days I have been away as I don't have the full set of stamps for outbound and inbound journeys on my passport. I need to check my e-ticket dates from my emails, etc...But, again, would they be able to check this via another system/method?
Many thanks,
Seda
You don't use e-tickets? I'm also sure that the airlines will be happy to clarify things should you provide them with enough information.abinanthanb wrote:Well, I dont care what is the OP's intention. But the question is a valid one to get clarified. What is the best way to get the details of my Entries/Exits to UK in the past if I have lost the records?
You evil evil person VanadilVanadil wrote:I agree completely!hsmp_1476 wrote:That is still stealing and it is a crime.Vanadil wrote:I was shoping in Boots the other day and the cashier left the till open as a jar fell off a shelf behind her. She turned around to help her colleage clear up the mess and I took all the money and left.
It's not my fault she left the till open with the money in it. I don't view this as a crime.
I feel sometimes my odd mind is too much for this forum Wanderer understands me sometimes... I'm trying to understand him but so far all I've figured out is that he's a lot older than me and likes rubbish TV.... Sorry I digress.
The OP knows that she is outside UK for more than 180 days and she wants to use the fact that there are no exit stamps on her passport and is asking the forum if she can provide incorrect dates so that she meets the ILR criteria. Isnt it a clear case of abusing the system?? Yes, there are loopholes in the system, but it doesnt mean that we misuse it.push_hsmp wrote:Not sure what you guys are getting fussed up about. The member says:
(1) She does not have records of her exists because UKBA does not stamp Passport while leaving the country; and
(2) Under a legitimate right under Turkish immigration control regime she chose not to get her passport stamped
She is now faced with the problem of figuring out what the dates of her exits were and is wondering if she could use a random date before the UK entry dates.
I find the above query genuine. If the member is intending to cheat, no one on this forum would provide advice on how to cheat but how can you guys be judgemental? If you think the query is genuine , provide an answer, otherwise move on.
If you talk about ethics... how many of you have sought advice re seeking pre-mature extension of VISAs using a hole in the current Tier-1 guidance? and how many of you have used the same funds for dependants as were used for the main applicants ( i have seen a number of such posts and ppl have generously provided advices) - again a gap in the guidance.
My suggestion - whether or not you find merit in it- is excercise caution before branding someone as fraud/thief etc.
Well if the sole objective here is to cheat the system then its very clear we are not providing any advice here - provided we are sure that there is an ulterior motive. To use a simili-I thought she was looking more for Tax planning (we should be happy to advice her) and not for Tax avoidance (a strict no-no for this forum). I am absolutely against helping those who intend to cheat the system but we need to think twice before we label someone as doing so. I guess its time now for the OP to clarify rather than for us to draw conclusions.hsmp_1476 wrote:The OP knows that she is outside UK for more than 180 days and she wants to use the fact that there are no exit stamps on her passport and is asking the forum if she can provide incorrect dates so that she meets the ILR criteria. Isnt it a clear case of abusing the system?? Yes, there are loopholes in the system, but it doesnt mean that we misuse it.push_hsmp wrote:Not sure what you guys are getting fussed up about. The member says:
(1) She does not have records of her exists because UKBA does not stamp Passport while leaving the country; and
(2) Under a legitimate right under Turkish immigration control regime she chose not to get her passport stamped
She is now faced with the problem of figuring out what the dates of her exits were and is wondering if she could use a random date before the UK entry dates.
I find the above query genuine. If the member is intending to cheat, no one on this forum would provide advice on how to cheat but how can you guys be judgemental? If you think the query is genuine , provide an answer, otherwise move on.
If you talk about ethics... how many of you have sought advice re seeking pre-mature extension of VISAs using a hole in the current Tier-1 guidance? and how many of you have used the same funds for dependants as were used for the main applicants ( i have seen a number of such posts and ppl have generously provided advices) - again a gap in the guidance.
My suggestion - whether or not you find merit in it- is excercise caution before branding someone as fraud/thief etc.
As justice_will_reign ahs said, OP might get away with it, but it will definately have an impact to the rules of ILR when HO gets to know about such things.