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Well, probably, because when I've acted as a referee on naturalisation applications (which I've done twice, I think), I've simply put "friend", which has been completely true but which doesn't really tell anyone very much. What your referees has put is more detailed. The only thing is: do they know you personally? I presume that they do...darksquid wrote:Is this sufficient?
Acceptable countersignatures:
* Accountant
* Articled clerk of a limited company
* Assurance agent of recognised company
* Bank/building society official
* Barrister
* British Computer Society (BCS) - Professional grades which are Associate (AMBCS), Member (MBCS), Fellow (FBCS) (PN 25/2003)
* Broker
* Chairman/director of limited company
* Chemist
* Chiropodist
* Christian Science practitioner
* Commissioner of oaths
* Councillor: local or county
* Civil servant (permanent)
* Dentist
* Designated Premises Supervisors
* Director/Manager of a VAT registered Charity
* Director/Manager/Personnel Officer of a VAT registered Company
* Engineer (with professional qualifications)
* Fire service official
* Funeral director
* Insurance agent (full time) of a recognised company
* Journalist
* Justice of the Peace
* Legal secretary (members and fellows of the Institute of legal secretaries)
* Local government officer
* Manager/Personnel officer (of limited company)
* Member of Parliament
* Merchant Navy officer
* Minister of a recognised religion
* Nurse (SRN and SEN)
* Officer of the armed services (active or retired)
* Optician
* Person with honours (e.g. OBE MBE etc.)
* Personal Licensee Holders
* Photographer (professional)
* Police officer
* Post Office official
* President/Secretary of a recognised organisation
* Salvation Army officer
* Social worker
* Solicitor
* Surveyor
* Teacher, lecturer
* Trade union officer
* Travel agency (qualified)
* Valuers and auctioneers (fellow and associate members of the incorporated society)
* Warrant officers and Chief Petty Officers
So a cleaner working for a bank could sign your form? Or a cook working in an accounting firm's office canteen? Or how about the doorman in a large law firm? These are all people working in professional organisations.Marco 72 wrote:darksquid, I called the Home Office helpline a few weeks ago and they told me that "anyone working in a professional organisation" qualifies as a person of professional standing. I'm not sure what they mean by "professional organisation". The best thing would probably be to ring the home office helpline (0845 010 5200) and ask if a particular person you have in mind qualifies as such. It might also be a good idea to call the NCS you made the appointment with and ask them the same question before you go there.
darksquid wrote:Ok, as the new Naturalisation referee requirements seem to be quite similar to the countersigning requirements for applying for a British passport, I thought I would look up the list of acceptable people for countersigning passport applications. Would it be correct to assume that anyone on this list would *probably* be acceptable as a referee for Naturalisation? I notice police officers and firemen on the list!
The list is as follows (from http://www.passport.gov.uk/passport_countersign.asp):Acceptable countersignatures:
* Accountant
* Articled clerk of a limited company
* Assurance agent of recognised company
* Bank/building society official
* Barrister
* British Computer Society (BCS) - Professional grades which are Associate (AMBCS), Member (MBCS), Fellow (FBCS) (PN 25/2003)
* Broker
* Chairman/director of limited company
* Chemist
* Chiropodist
* Christian Science practitioner
* Commissioner of oaths
* Councillor: local or county
* Civil servant (permanent)
* Dentist
* Designated Premises Supervisors
* Director/Manager of a VAT registered Charity
* Director/Manager/Personnel Officer of a VAT registered Company
* Engineer (with professional qualifications)
* Fire service official
* Funeral director
* Insurance agent (full time) of a recognised company
* Journalist
* Justice of the Peace
* Legal secretary (members and fellows of the Institute of legal secretaries)
* Local government officer
* Manager/Personnel officer (of limited company)
* Member of Parliament
* Merchant Navy officer
* Minister of a recognised religion
* Nurse (SRN and SEN)
* Officer of the armed services (active or retired)
* Optician
* Person with honours (e.g. OBE MBE etc.)
* Personal Licensee Holders
* Photographer (professional)
* Police officer
* Post Office official
* President/Secretary of a recognised organisation
* Salvation Army officer
* Social worker
* Solicitor
* Surveyor
* Teacher, lecturer
* Trade union officer
* Travel agency (qualified)
* Valuers and auctioneers (fellow and associate members of the incorporated society)
* Warrant officers and Chief Petty Officers