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absence from UK on business trip

Post by hsac1301 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:57 pm

Absence from UK

I have spent total 195 days outside UK in 5 years and I was out for business training from my own limited company for 63 days . I have got a letter from accountant regarding my absence for that 63 days.Do i need to provide any other proof..

Pls advise
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Post by batleykhan » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:06 pm

For what?????.

It would help if you give full details

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Post by Wanderer » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:22 pm

Can't see that being accepted! Working on business abroad if an employer requirement would be but training abroad (which is not a neccessity) as a contractor (which I suspect you are) is a different kettle of fish.
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Post by hsac1301 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:42 am

Hi,

Yes I was on training. Do I need to provide any training certificate from abroad. I have claimed the training expenses also at that time.

Please advise how can we clarify this. Yes I got that training to update my skills.

Please advise.

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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:26 am

U can apply with letter of accountant and a good covering letter

ye case is marginal and very good chance to get ILR

WHETER IT is traning or work so lonf iti is for business it makes no difference to HO
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Post by Wanderer » Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:07 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:U can apply with letter of accountant and a good covering letter

ye case is marginal and very good chance to get ILR

WHETER IT is traning or work so lonf iti is for business it makes no difference to HO
You but it was his own choice not a necessity.
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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:46 pm

Letter for employer is must, should for business purpose than he should 99% fine

training are part of business , employer is boss here
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Post by meats » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:11 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:Letter for employer is must, should for business purpose than he should 99% fine

training are part of business , employer is boss here
But he is the manager so i fail to see how that will work.

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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:46 pm

Yes , it will work

on company letter head + proper documents / supporting evidence for training programme -comunication , material etc.

(Even when we pay dividend, received by owner but it is we, and authorised by director than it,is we)

A STRONG presentation should sort it out.
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Post by meats » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:49 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:Yes , it will work

on company letter head + proper documents / supporting evidence for training programme -comunication , material etc.

(Even when we pay dividend, received by owner but it is we, and authorised by director than it,is we)

A STRONG presentation should sort it out.
Can't see it being accepted. 63 days of training OUTSIDE of the UK?! What was the stop him from doing the training inside the UK? Sounds like he's abusing the system by doing that.

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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:42 pm

Very Important -truth

than there is no law in any country that restricts to go for traing out of country.

Britian IS leadning in Education but not cost effective

some of iT progrmme learning cost will be £10-20000 can be done OUTSIDE in £5-10000.

only truth to be presented to get good night sleep

but if this true situation than this case a good to defend
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Post by meats » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:03 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:Very Important -truth

than there is no law in any country that restricts to go for traing out of country.

Britian IS leadning in Education but not cost effective

some of iT progrmme learning cost will be £10-20000 can be done OUTSIDE in £5-10000.

only truth to be presented to get good night sleep

but if this true situation than this case a good to defend
And another important truth is that he's spent more than 90 days outside of the UK and none of which are business trips. He decided to study abroad.

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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:21 pm

Training abroad should not be issue till it is for betterment for business and other visa conditions are met
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Post by meats » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:27 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:Training abroad should not be issue till it is for betterment for business and other visa conditions are met
But the conditions aren't met Sushil, he's been out of the country for longer than he's permitted.

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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:11 am

We are not decider of the case

senio case officer is decider of case and Officer have all power to condone the excess time above normal limits

I am sure if he files paper with proper documents they will issue letter that yr application is valid and decided by senior officer

i have seen this situation
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Post by meats » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:49 am

Sushil-ACCA wrote:We are not decider of the case

senio case officer is decider of case and Officer have all power to condone the excess time above normal limits

I am sure if he files paper with proper documents they will issue letter that yr application is valid and decided by senior officer

i have seen this situation
Indeed we are not the decider of his case, however he's been studying abroad under the pretence of 'business trip' when i'm sure the course could've been done in the UK.

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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:17 am

Relax my friend

let him take acton on basis of truth, in theorey he is fine
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Post by hsac1301 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:24 am

Hi,
Thanks everyone.
Sushil is rite. It is cheaper to get training from abroad i.e. 2000 pounds including accommodation in my case. Here in UK it is £16000+ accommodation and food.Moreover it is required by my business .

I have training certificate issued by training company at that time and invoices for the whole course. Is this OK.
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Post by meats » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:35 am

Good luck because you're going to need it. 63 days studying abroad, nice little holiday too.

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Post by Wanderer » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:40 pm

Having read the UKBA docs I can confirm 'vocational training' is ok for absences.

I was wrong but I'd still be cautious wrt to the close connection between u and ur company, assuming ur a contractor as I think u r, especially if ur training course was in ur home country, these UKBA guys know all the dodges!
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Post by Sushil-ACCA » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:28 pm

Some are dogy not all

otherwise no one will be geting permission to come this country

it is like bad debts in sales

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