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In first case.. did u not give the correct details of ur Manager BHC shd contact in the CONTACTS Details they asked in the application??houman1979 wrote:Dear All,
I applied yesterday for Tier 1 General. British Embassy called my company today and asked one of staff about my position and salary. Unfortunately, the staff doesnt know my salary well and gave lower amount. However, my salary is really correct and managing director signed the letter and bank statements confirm the net payment. Do you think, this call has any bad effect on my application. At least, they knew that my company and my position is correct.
As i said u missed something.. Contact Person's NAME.. we should be double careful while provding details as bolded above..houman1979 wrote:Thank you for your response.
In my contact detail I gave the main telephone of our company and when you call my company you will be directed to the supposed person, then I thought that they will be connected to managing director. I didnt mention any name on the form as I didnt know how they call. but the letter signed by managing director.
In addition, as I asked the called staff, they even didnt ask his position or anything else, only my employment, duration, position and salary and he gave them a lower salary amount (he answered them an approximate monthly salary).
Again, in my bank statement the real salary could be seen.
Do they use the information they get in their calling for judgment?
Good Points:houman1979 wrote:Thank you again,.
As I told you our company has a complicated structure and I didnt know which person I should give detail's. in addition, the main telephone number of company printed on letterhead and I worried that BHC contacts that number anyway.
As I told you, they dont ask about the position of the staff and even his NAME or NAME of our MD, they only as some general questions.
In addition, they ask him about employment duration and he answered them wrongly (I've been here for 1.5 years and he responded 2.5 years!!!), about the salary, the amount he responded is correct for 7 months of 12 months and lower for the next 5 months. Is it possible the ECO considers those months as bonus?
I repeat again that all the net payment can be verified by bank statements.
If it is rejected, you will have rejection reason which you can address by providing letter from your employer etc. This is not a new case for ECO. You will find many similar cases in this very forum.houman1979 wrote: In addition, in the case of reject could I appeal on the basis of uninformed answers and my inability to provide exact contact details?
How can xyz who dont have info and authority can talk about yr salary to some one .houman1979 wrote:Dear All,
I applied yesterday for Tier 1 General. British Embassy called my company today and asked one of staff about my position and salary. Unfortunately, the staff doesnt know my salary well and gave lower amount. However, my salary is really correct and managing director signed the letter and bank statements confirm the net payment. Do you think, this call has any bad effect on my application. At least, they knew that my company and my position is correct.
houman1979 wrote:Thank you again,.
As I told you our company has a complicated structure and I didnt know which person I should give detail's. in addition, the main telephone number of company printed on letterhead and I worried that BHC contacts that number anyway.
As I told you, they dont ask about the position of the staff and even his NAME or NAME of our MD, they only as some general questions.
In addition, they ask him about employment duration and he answered them wrongly (I've been here for 1.5 years and he responded 2.5 years!!!), about the salary, the amount he responded is correct for 7 months of 12 months and lower for the next 5 months. Is it possible the ECO considers those months as bonus?
I repeat again that all the net payment can be verified by bank statements.
chetanojha wrote:Good Points:houman1979 wrote:Thank you again,.
As I told you our company has a complicated structure and I didnt know which person I should give detail's. in addition, the main telephone number of company printed on letterhead and I worried that BHC contacts that number anyway.
As I told you, they dont ask about the position of the staff and even his NAME or NAME of our MD, they only as some general questions.
In addition, they ask him about employment duration and he answered them wrongly (I've been here for 1.5 years and he responded 2.5 years!!!), about the salary, the amount he responded is correct for 7 months of 12 months and lower for the next 5 months. Is it possible the ECO considers those months as bonus?
I repeat again that all the net payment can be verified by bank statements.
I think if details of your salary is correct and can be corroborated by bank statement you stand a good chance of approval. The reason is,
1. Somebody from your company has verified 7 months of salary correctly.
2. You also mentioned that person told ECO "approximate" salary, which gives you benefit of doubt.
3. your company staff only mentioned "approximate" salary but not bonus (which you have claimed). Obviously your bonus amount will not be put on bulletin board of the company and hence it is confidential information.
4. Letter/Payslips was signed by your MD i.e. highest authority in your company, so if i were caseworker I would think there is very rare chance that people will forge signature of MD.
What go against you:
1. You should have provided correct contact details of the person., which you didn't and hence all this mess up.
2. How can you assume that telephone operator will divert the ECO call direct to MD unless you mention name in your cover letter?
3. ECO should be speaking to either accounts or HR department of your company, so how come someone(with no access to correct details) entertain that call.
My Opinion:
2. If refused, you can get letter from your company explaining the situation and appeal against the decision and you should get approval,
If MD can sign payslips, then I would presume he will also issue letter to person.Sushil-ACCA wrote:
this is very strong pt against him, normally MD is not expected to reply about salary of employees unless it is very small company. HR person should reply , in appeal it is hard to defend some of reply given by own office person , unless MD gives in writing that there was error and the person was not authoresed to reply.[/u]
There are many cases in forum like this.houman1979 wrote:Is there any other comment especially from similar cases?
Result depends on case to case basis + what your company staff spoke to BHC. Many people who got rejection due to such reason had successful appeals and eventually granted visa.houman1979 wrote:Thank you for your answer. But in Iran, British Embassy doest not accept any correspondence, it even does not have any telephone inquiry service.
By the way, do you know the result of mentioned similar cases? I couldnt find them.