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HSMP Extension Refused, Going to appeal

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HSMP Extension Refused, Going to appeal

Post by saeed1977 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:20 pm

Hi,

My Tier 1 General Extension Application got refused and I have until 8th of Jan 2010 to Appeal.

Reasons for refusal and possible solutions i can think of:

1. Previous Earnings: Business Bank Account Statement was provided alongside Business Profit and Loss Account. Earnings in Profit and Loss account can not be corroborated with Business Bank Account Statement as it (the bank statement) only shows 'turnover' not the profit. So i need another document to support my profit and loss account. I can not use HMRC Self Assessment Statement because it covers from Apr To Apr and the period i am claiming points for runs from Nov 08 to Oct 09. The only thing i can think of is letter from an accountant. But i am not sure whether i can have an accountant when i am an accountant myself. I mean will it look reasonable that i do accounts for other people and my accounts are being done by some one else?

2. Maintenance: Balance of both of my bank accounts (Personal and Business) fell below the requirement for about 10 days. And the balance on my personal account statement fell below required amount about 3 times. HO said i can not use Business bank account statement as evidence of maintenance funds. I am a self employed sole trader and no one else has any thing to do with my business bank account.

I have been in this country for 8 years and have equity of around £40,000 in my house, if that has any meaning.

I don't mind hiring a solicitor to do it on my behalf.

Any advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: HSMP Extension Refused, Going to appeal

Post by Sushil-ACCA » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:31 pm

saeed1977 wrote:Hi,

My Tier 1 General Extension Application got refused and I have until 8th of Jan 2010 to Appeal.

Reasons for refusal and possible solutions i can think of:

1. Previous Earnings: Business Bank Account Statement was provided alongside Business Profit and Loss Account. Earnings in Profit and Loss account can not be corroborated with Business Bank Account Statement as it (the bank statement) only shows 'turnover' not the profit. So i need another document to support my profit and loss account. I can not use HMRC Self Assessment Statement because it covers from Apr To Apr and the period i am claiming points for runs from Nov 08 to Oct 09. The only thing i can think of is letter from an accountant. But i am not sure whether i can have an accountant when i am an accountant myself. I mean will it look reasonable that i do accounts for other people and my accounts are being done by some one else?

THE basic principle - you can not approve yr own income even u hold licence to practice

if u state this in appeal it will go aganst u

2. Maintenance: Balance of both of my bank accounts (Personal and Business) fell below the requirement for about 10 days. And the balance on my personal account statement fell below required amount about 3 times. HO said i can not use Business bank account statement as evidence of maintenance funds. I am a self employed sole trader and no one else has any thing to do with my business bank account.



I have been in this country for 8 years and have equity of around £40,000 in my house, if that has any meaning.

no meaning in visa extn

I don't mind hiring a solicitor to do it on my behalf.

better hire a good person to defend u , it is like better than one in fight

Any advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
provide more info, to help u in preparing those mssing documents which u missed to prove yr earnings.

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Re: HSMP Extension Refused, Going to appeal

Post by saeed1977 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:06 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote:

provide more info, to help u in preparing those mssing documents which u missed to prove yr earnings.
Many thanks for your comments.

Could you please let me know what sort of information i should provide and what documents do u think are missing.

They accepted my P&L but need another supporting evidence from a different source. I cant think of anything to be honest.

Kind regards,

Saeed

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Re: HSMP Extension Refused, Going to appeal

Post by Sushil-ACCA » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:13 pm

saeed1977 wrote:
Sushil-ACCA wrote:

provide more info, to help u in preparing those mssing documents which u missed to prove yr earnings.
Many thanks for your comments.

Could you please let me know what sort of information i should provide and what documents do u think are missing.

They accepted my P&L but need another supporting evidence from a different source. I cant think of anything to be honest.

Kind regards,

Saeed
SALES BREAKUP -NAME OF PARTIES or customers , date credited in bank a/c , invoices of sales , sales or service aggreements if any

Expenses - any supporting - invoices, direct debt mandates etc

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Re: HSMP Extension Refused, Going to appeal

Post by saeed1977 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:55 pm

Sushil-ACCA wrote: SALES BREAKUP -NAME OF PARTIES or customers , date credited in bank a/c , invoices of sales , sales or service aggreements if any

Expenses - any supporting - invoices, direct debt mandates etc
Sounds like a good idea. Should convince any sensible person. Hope it works for the AIT (who appear to be quite sensible people).


In addition, what do you think of getting accounts and a letter done by another accountant (like u say i cannot approve my own income)


Thank you very much for your help.


Saeed

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Re: HSMP Extension Refused, Going to appeal

Post by Sushil-ACCA » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:46 pm

saeed1977 wrote:
Sushil-ACCA wrote: SALES BREAKUP -NAME OF PARTIES or customers , date credited in bank a/c , invoices of sales , sales or service aggreements if any

Expenses - any supporting - invoices, direct debt mandates etc
Sounds like a good idea. Should convince any sensible person. Hope it works for the AIT (who appear to be quite sensible people).


In addition, what do you think of getting accounts and a letter done by another accountant (like u say i cannot approve my own income) -THIS IS MUST TO PROVE YOU CORRECT


Thank you very much for your help.


Saeed

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