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I don't blame you for wanting to get out of the UK. The fact that he resigned from his job and his new one doesn't start until May 2010 would've gone against him big time. That being said i'm still surprised that he was questioned by immigration, hence me asking whether there was something you hadn't told us such as a criminal record etc.Tashie80 wrote:Oooops... Ive just seen that im in the PSW section- sorry. Thanks your your response anyhow. No he does not have a criminal record nor has he done anything (as far as we know) to warrent the double stamp. He did not come here with the intention to work and yes his girlfriend is in the UK but does not mean he doesnt have incentive to go home, inactual fact if all works out we will relocate to the US- immigration officers base everything on assumption and past experiences i guess but that really doesnt help the innocent who have been misadvised and then trapped in this horrendous system
Topic moved.Tashie80 wrote:Oooops... Ive just seen that im in the PSW section- sorry.
The problem with the AIT process is that they will only look at the evidence you submitted originally and make a call on wether the ECO was right to refuse based on that evidence, it's not a chance to re-submit new evidence... for that you need to make a fresh applicationTashie80 wrote:again we had this covered (or so we thought) he came with savings and also was due to receive regular monthly payments from his dad- which the officer called ad-hoc payments (another assumption for her) also i had details of my savings which they didnt ask for. Yes im studying but that is alongside a full time job. I earn a decent enough amount to fully support us and I also have the option of doing extra agency work, had money been that tight- all of this was expalined to the immigration officer. Anyhow, appreciating the advice but does anyone know what the AIT can do- they gave us a hearing, but is this just a paper pushing exercise with no chance of a good result for us?
I know that, i was just surprised that he was stopped at immigration being an American citizen. I'm guessing that he must've said something that triggered something off in the immigration official's mind when asked a question or 2 whilst getting his passport stamped. Only time i've been questioned at immigration control was in New Zealand and that was just asking if i had any shoes covered in mud that might harm their environment...oh and how long i intended to stay but i had an onward flight to Fiji so no problems there.INSIDER wrote: Meats
Because he is a non-visa national does not mean he is not subject to immigration control. IOs have the power to question all passengers subject to immigration control about the reason for their visit. The depth and length of questioning would normally depend on the person in front of the IO there reasons for coming to the UK and the answers to questions already asked.
Certainly, someone pitching up at the control and requesting the maximum time allowed to stay in the UK as a visitor with no visible or formal means of support would arouse suspicion and consequently in depth questioning. Remember in the rest of Europe the time allowed visitors is half that of the UK and that is throughout schengen on one visit so you cannot, for instance, stay three months in France and then move to Italy for a further period of time. Although I do know some countries are exempt from this rule because of reciprocal agreements.
To be fair to the UKBA and HO the information about visit visas is available on their websites and what is needed to satisfy immigration.Tashie80 wrote:Thank you for all your postings and information. Disapointly, Im still far from being with my boyfriend anytime soon as it seems the system has messed us up!! At present I doubt he would get a visa now as he is currently unemployed and presumably he would need 6 months of wage slips to take as proof of employment when applying for the visa. Had we been informed correctly initially he would still be in employment and would have current wage slips to produce, therefore giving us a better chance. Im just angry at the fact that we are just silenced with no one to talk to or complain to about the lack of information given to the regular civilian surrounding these situations. Why offer people the choice of coming for 6 months if that will cause concerns anyway, why not state that they advise you not to come for the whole duration that they offer. Why do they assume that everyone wants to overstay in this country (i know people do, but not everyone wants to)- i mean how are you to survive (as a decent law abiding person that is), you CANT rely on public funds as what proof of citizenship/unemployment will you have if your not legally supposed to be in this country?? I dunno, just dont seem to be able to progress or move on from this and it seems like we have to spend the next 6-8 months apart before we attempt anything else, so excuse me if i sound sad, miserable and angry (I am normally a happy person)....
Not true, unless it is specifically mentioned on the refusal notice he would have been given. He could in theory have arrived the next day and sought entry.Tashie80 wrote:@Insider
He came for 2 weeks in April. Also is it true that you have to wait 1 year after being refused to try to re-enter the country?
Thanks everyone, sorry for sounding so grumpy and negative earlier- it just gets me down sometimes ;-(
You are right on the money:meats wrote:I know that, i was just surprised that he was stopped at immigration being an American citizen. I'm guessing that he must've said something that triggered something off in the immigration official's mind when asked a question or 2 whilst getting his passport stamped. Only time i've been questioned at immigration control was in New Zealand and that was just asking if i had any shoes covered in mud that might harm their environment...oh and how long i intended to stay but i had an onward flight to Fiji so no problems there.INSIDER wrote: Meats
Because he is a non-visa national does not mean he is not subject to immigration control. IOs have the power to question all passengers subject to immigration control about the reason for their visit. The depth and length of questioning would normally depend on the person in front of the IO there reasons for coming to the UK and the answers to questions already asked.
Certainly, someone pitching up at the control and requesting the maximum time allowed to stay in the UK as a visitor with no visible or formal means of support would arouse suspicion and consequently in depth questioning. Remember in the rest of Europe the time allowed visitors is half that of the UK and that is throughout schengen on one visit so you cannot, for instance, stay three months in France and then move to Italy for a further period of time. Although I do know some countries are exempt from this rule because of reciprocal agreements.