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sashi1979 wrote:gotcha.. i did give my try on the job hunt.. but so futile... went back to my own country and now back in as a dependent of someone who has been deputed in the UK.. i have my own tier 1 - only that the market isnt any good.
I think it is the other way around there 10 failures to every success in this economic climate especiallygotcha wrote:sashi1979 wrote:gotcha.. i did give my try on the job hunt.. but so futile... went back to my own country and now back in as a dependent of someone who has been deputed in the UK.. i have my own tier 1 - only that the market isnt any good.
Sorry to hear story. Even so, there is no point discouraging newcomers. There are 10 succes stories for every failure. I can tell about a friend of mine and his wife, both got offers within last 3 weeks.
It is not discouragement. It is a reality check.sujyo wrote:Please do not discourage the new comers coming to UK. Situation is not the same with everyone. We have some lucky few who still have got jobs in this bad situation. It all depends on the indvidual his efforts and finally luck.
I am still not able to locate a Non functional tester (Volume and Performance) with 5 years exp for a contract position....so jobs still exist in pockets and u need to be lucky to grab that.
I wish that there were as many jobs around as some people like to make out. However as you said, the figures back you up about the lack of jobs otherwise why would unemployment continue to rise?republique wrote:It is not discouragement. It is a reality check.sujyo wrote:Please do not discourage the new comers coming to UK. Situation is not the same with everyone. We have some lucky few who still have got jobs in this bad situation. It all depends on the indvidual his efforts and finally luck.
I am still not able to locate a Non functional tester (Volume and Performance) with 5 years exp for a contract position....so jobs still exist in pockets and u need to be lucky to grab that.
If it is what the other person said, then I want him to provide a valid source for his information. My comment makes more sense in the current economic climate
How you expect me to present valid source. Shall I make my friend and his wife post here ?republique wrote: f it is what the other person said, then I want him to provide a valid source for his information.
What annoys me is when people make blanket statements as facts when they are just opinion.gotcha wrote:How you expect me to present valid source. Shall I make my friend and his wife post here ?republique wrote: f it is what the other person said, then I want him to provide a valid source for his information.
As everybody on this forum, I just replies depending on what I see.
UK market never been like India(booming). So if one has to consider that.
I think, people has not practical expectations when terming market as crap.
And the way OP was answered annoys me most.
No, it doesn't work the other way around because my comment makes sense in the context of the economic crises. You came up with 1:10 ratio like it was some kind of fact so I say prove it. All I said, it is likely the reverse because of the economic crises, which mean probability. My statement for sure is still more likely than yours.gotcha wrote:This applies to you,too, the way you said it's other way around.republique wrote:What annoys me is when people make blanket statements as facts when they are just opinion.
Just add to my post, everybody on this forum gives opinion, and not authority.
Can you prove your fact? It's your opinion, so does I stick to my opinion. And as I said earlier, OP was not asking about job market, the way he/she was answered is really annoying. People seating here in good or bad job preaching about job market to hopefull.republique wrote:No, it doesn't work the other way around because my comment makes sense in the context of the economic crises. You came up with 1:10 ratio like it was some kind of fact so I say prove it. All I said, it is likely the reverse because of the economic crises, which mean probability. My statement for sure is still more likely than yours.
That's what I want to underline. UK job market never was booming like India. Some people will find job within week, some people do not find job after months. It depend on luck,timing, planning ,skills etc.namastelondon wrote: When i came here in April 2008, i can see lot of frustrating post about jobs but i find the market quite good for me.
How can there be 10 success stories for every failure when unemployment is at a record high AND STILL RISING!!??!? Even a bloody dingbat would see that you're so wrong that it's funny. You're not actually Gordon Brown are you? Only he would come up with something as stupid as you are gotcha.gotcha wrote:Can you prove your fact? It's your opinion, so does I stick to my opinion. And as I said earlier, OP was not asking about job market, the way he/she was answered is really annoying. People seating here in good or bad job preaching about job market to hopefull.republique wrote:No, it doesn't work the other way around because my comment makes sense in the context of the economic crises. You came up with 1:10 ratio like it was some kind of fact so I say prove it. All I said, it is likely the reverse because of the economic crises, which mean probability. My statement for sure is still more likely than yours.
@meats, I would suggest you still go immigration adivice rather than your preposterous and distortional political comments to say the least.meats wrote:How can there be 10 success stories for every failure when unemployment is at a record high AND STILL RISING!!??!? Even a bloody dingbat would see that you're so wrong that it's funny. You're not actually Gordon Brown are you? Only he would come up with something as stupid as you are gotcha.gotcha wrote:Can you prove your fact? It's your opinion, so does I stick to my opinion. And as I said earlier, OP was not asking about job market, the way he/she was answered is really annoying. People seating here in good or bad job preaching about job market to hopefull.republique wrote:No, it doesn't work the other way around because my comment makes sense in the context of the economic crises. You came up with 1:10 ratio like it was some kind of fact so I say prove it. All I said, it is likely the reverse because of the economic crises, which mean probability. My statement for sure is still more likely than yours.
@meats, I would suggest you still go immigration adivice rather than your preposterous and distortional political comments to say the least.meats wrote:How can there be 10 success stories for every failure when unemployment is at a record high AND STILL RISING!!??!? Even a bloody dingbat would see that you're so wrong that it's funny. You're not actually Gordon Brown are you? Only he would come up with something as stupid as you are gotcha.gotcha wrote:Can you prove your fact? It's your opinion, so does I stick to my opinion. And as I said earlier, OP was not asking about job market, the way he/she was answered is really annoying. People seating here in good or bad job preaching about job market to hopefull.republique wrote:No, it doesn't work the other way around because my comment makes sense in the context of the economic crises. You came up with 1:10 ratio like it was some kind of fact so I say prove it. All I said, it is likely the reverse because of the economic crises, which mean probability. My statement for sure is still more likely than yours.
meats wrote: How can there be 10 success stories for every failure when unemployment is at a record high AND STILL RISING!!??!? Even a bloody dingbat would see that you're so wrong that it's funny. You're not actually Gordon Brown are you? Only he would come up with something as stupid as you are gotcha.
You are repeating what I said to you.gotcha wrote:Can you prove your fact? It's your opinion, so does I stick to my opinion. And as I said earlier, OP was not asking about job market, the way he/she was answered is really annoying. People seating here in good or bad job preaching about job market to hopefull.republique wrote:No, it doesn't work the other way around because my comment makes sense in the context of the economic crises. You came up with 1:10 ratio like it was some kind of fact so I say prove it. All I said, it is likely the reverse because of the economic crises, which mean probability. My statement for sure is still more likely than yours.
kindley, i suggest that you have a look at the unemployment figures, both the 'official' ones and the more realistic ones being quoted by the majority of the press in this country.kindley wrote:@meats, I would suggest you still go immigration adivice rather than your preposterous and distortional political comments to say the least.meats wrote:How can there be 10 success stories for every failure when unemployment is at a record high AND STILL RISING!!??!? Even a bloody dingbat would see that you're so wrong that it's funny. You're not actually Gordon Brown are you? Only he would come up with something as stupid as you are gotcha.gotcha wrote:Can you prove your fact? It's your opinion, so does I stick to my opinion. And as I said earlier, OP was not asking about job market, the way he/she was answered is really annoying. People seating here in good or bad job preaching about job market to hopefull.republique wrote:No, it doesn't work the other way around because my comment makes sense in the context of the economic crises. You came up with 1:10 ratio like it was some kind of fact so I say prove it. All I said, it is likely the reverse because of the economic crises, which mean probability. My statement for sure is still more likely than yours.
You seem to be the campaign arm of the Tory party on here. When you say unemployement "is at a record high AND STILL RISING", perhaps you should tell us that David cameron wouldn't have done anything bec he wanted the recession to take it course.
Yeah unemployment is rising but you didn't tell us what figures- (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8353933.stm) from the ONS revealed recently that rise in unemployment as actually slowed. Perhaps you should tell us if not for the action taken by Gordon Brown whom I'm actually not a big fan of, unemployment didn't reach 3 million by December as predicted by many analysis?
Perhaps you should also tell us what happened in the last recession under the Tory govt where people were left to fend for themselves.