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You need to lecture Meats about this, as he thinks that no services can be provided with out extracting such imformation from people. This is all about big Brother!Obie wrote:Spain is acting in conformity with the EU wide proposal. They do not require this information from people travelling within EU proper ( Schengen Land).
The UK and Ireland, has only themselves to blame, for the Spanish insiting their citizens provides this information, or flights departing from their territory extracting these information from their passengers.
The UK however, intended to extend this measure , illegally to people in Schengen Land. This is totally unacceptable, which is why EU chiefs have questioned its legality, not because people want to pick on Britain.
The UK will still be allowed to require this information from EU national seeking to Enter the UK from a third country.
Just one more thing, they will be able to get those information from their friends in Ireland, should they wish to do so.
This doesn't actually make any difference whatsoever DFDS, all that it means is that people will be queueing for longer at immigration whilst they check everyone's details at the counter, and most likely resulting in more people being interviewed/detained/deported. This will inconvenience passengers more than previously.DFDS. wrote:You need to lecture Meats about this, as he thinks that no services can be provided with out extracting such imformation from people. This is all about big Brother!Obie wrote:Spain is acting in conformity with the EU wide proposal. They do not require this information from people travelling within EU proper ( Schengen Land).
The UK and Ireland, has only themselves to blame, for the Spanish insiting their citizens provides this information, or flights departing from their territory extracting these information from their passengers.
The UK however, intended to extend this measure , illegally to people in Schengen Land. This is totally unacceptable, which is why EU chiefs have questioned its legality, not because people want to pick on Britain.
The UK will still be allowed to require this information from EU national seeking to Enter the UK from a third country.
Just one more thing, they will be able to get those information from their friends in Ireland, should they wish to do so.
RattleSnake wrote:After this .. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 968539.ece
I think such checks are now vital .
If he had got himself a genuine college his terror attack would clearly of been done in the UK which is a shocking though .
So what if people are asked a question or 2 which may take 1 minute ? maybe 2 minutes ? If it keeps people safe on a flight that is all that matters .
If people think it is a human rights issue to take finger prints and scan people to make sure they are who they say they are and are not carrying anything that could be used for a terror attack on a plane then they really do need to get in the real world and get a job ... to much internet all day every day can twist the brain man ....
I am saying that the following is utter garbage... "The UK might suddenly tell the airline not to allow those individual to board a flight, because of a name match, or because of some secret information they hold about this person, which he or she may not know about, or has the opportunity of defending.DFDS. wrote:RattleSnake wrote:After this .. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 968539.ece
I think such checks are now vital .
If he had got himself a genuine college his terror attack would clearly of been done in the UK which is a shocking though .
So what if people are asked a question or 2 which may take 1 minute ? maybe 2 minutes ? If it keeps people safe on a flight that is all that matters .
If people think it is a human rights issue to take finger prints and scan people to make sure they are who they say they are and are not carrying anything that could be used for a terror attack on a plane then they really do need to get in the real world and get a job ... to much internet all day every day can twist the brain man ....
RattleSnake am sorry to say that i haven't got your what you meant in the above post.
What exactly did you want to say?
Unfortunately there are left wing hippies who disagree with you. People like Obie for example think that the whole world is entitled to live in the UK and would be quite happy to see it become a terrorist hotspot. Quite frankly the sooner the UK is out of the EU the better and also gets rid of the even more pointless human rights act which only protects the criminals and screws over the innocent.inwarsaw wrote:Agreed RattleSnake. It can of course go against the human rights and privacy and the sort but I would better be safe than sorry. The americans have similar sytem in place and there are no exemptions to that. Even if you don't need a visa for US, you still have to give this information at least 72 hours before your departure so they can cross check, and I am for UK bringing in such checks.
Whether measures like body scanners would be effective or not is a different story though.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8441385.stm