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EU citizen - criteria for being domiciled in EU countries

Post by Perpetualtourist » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:56 pm

As an EU citizen, what are the criteria for being officially domiciled (in the legal sense of the word) in a EU country, and where is it easiest?

It needs to be as condition free and cheap as possible because I don't plan on spending much time there - I will be traveling and staying in countries around the world (would that be a problem?).

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Re: EU citizen - criteria for being domiciled in EU countrie

Post by Pakhtoon » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:25 pm

Perpetualtourist wrote:As an EU citizen, what are the criteria for being officially domiciled (in the legal sense of the word) in a EU country, and where is it easiest?

It needs to be as condition free and cheap as possible because I don't plan on spending much time there - I will be traveling and staying in countries around the world (would that be a problem?).
My common sense tells me it would be the easiest in your home country.
Where did you get the money for travelling and staying in countries around the world ?? care to share the secret ?
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Post by Perpetualtourist » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:33 pm

Thanks. I will be working on the internet and just stay where I like. I need to be domiciled somewhere though for tax reasons.

You know how I can do this the easiest/cheapest?

I dont want to have to pay rent for a place I dont use etc. Im also not sure what the criteria are, would I need a physical place? Would I need to be in the country for a certain amount of time?

Thats why I would like to know where its the easiest and cheapest...

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Post by republique » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:57 pm

Perpetualtourist wrote:Thanks. I will be working on the internet and just stay where I like. I need to be domiciled somewhere though for tax reasons.

You know how I can do this the easiest/cheapest?

I dont want to have to pay rent for a place I dont use etc. Im also not sure what the criteria are, would I need a physical place? Would I need to be in the country for a certain amount of time?

Thats why I would like to know where its the easiest and cheapest...
For internet business, many gov't have decided that wherever you generate the income from is where it has to be declared to deal with people like you trying to be foot loose and fancy free with tax declarations.

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Post by Perpetualtourist » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:39 pm

"foot loose and fancy free"

Nice!

What if I work from a different country every few months? Would I be tax liable in the country I'm domiciled in? What If I'm not domiciled anywhere (and just keep moving around)?

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Post by republique » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:42 pm

Perpetualtourist wrote:"foot loose and fancy free"

Nice!

What if I work from a different country every few months? Would I be tax liable in the country I'm domiciled in? What If I'm not domiciled anywhere (and just keep moving around)?
MY answer already answered this contingency

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Post by Perpetualtourist » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:05 am

Sorry, misread. I will have clients in many different countries. Will I have to pay income tax in all of them?

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Post by acme4242 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:26 am

The Legal concept of domicile as it relates to TAX, means your
country of Birth, and Nationality.
Even you live in another country, and take another passport, does
not mean you don't have your origins or your domicile.

If you evade lawful tax's in your country of residence, you are
always liable in your country of domicile. This is how the taxman
always wins in the end.

To lawfully advoid tax (not evade), you need to be tax compliant
and resident in a country with little or no tax.
This is why UK artists and singers live in Ireland.

So forget about changing domicile. Its a non-starter.

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Post by Ben » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:25 am

Perpetualtourist wrote:What if I work from a different country every few months? Would I be tax liable in the country I'm domiciled in? What If I'm not domiciled anywhere (and just keep moving around)?
In Ireland such people are known as "members of the travelling community".
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:23 am

acme4242 wrote:The Legal concept of domicile as it relates to TAX, means your
country of Birth, and Nationality.
Even you live in another country, and take another passport, does
not mean you don't have your origins or your domicile.
I do not think it is nearly so simple as this.
acme4242 wrote:If you evade lawful tax's in your country of residence, you are
always liable in your country of domicile
. This is how the taxman
always wins in the end.
This is incorrect, at least in the law of many countries I know.
acme4242 wrote:To lawfully advoid tax (not evade), you need to be tax compliant
and resident in a country with little or no tax.
This is why UK artists and singers live in Ireland.
I think this is pretty much right.

I should warn that I am not a tax expert and the following should not be taken as advice or as 100% correct.

The bottom line is you want to find a place or a set of places to base yourself which will legally reduce the amount of tax you pay. There are very talented (and typically very expensive) accountants who understand the tax laws of many countries and can understand the details of your situation and can advise you. If you are serious about this, you will need to talk with a professional accountant.

I think it is normally the case that you need to be resident in a country for more than about 180 days a year for it to be considered your tax home.

So for instance, lets say you make all your money writing stories for newspapers in South Africa about the situation in Europe. If you are resident in Estonia for 200 days, then typically your income is taxed by Estonia and not by the UK and not by other EU countries.

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