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Foreign student visas to be cut by UK

Post by geriatrix » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:37 am

Foreign student visas to be cut by UK wrote:The number of visas granted to foreign students is to be cut by the UK as part of a crackdown on abuses of the system, Home Secretary Alan Johnson has said.

Mr Johnson said tougher rules would require applicants to speak English to a certain level and ban those on short UK courses from bringing dependants.

He said the rules were aimed not at genuine students but those who travelled to the UK primarily for work.

They follow a review ordered after the alleged failed Chicago plane bombing.

The review was ordered by Gordon Brown after he said the alleged Christmas Day bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who had studied in London, had linked up with al-Qaeda in Yemen after leaving the UK.

In 2008/9, about 240,000 student visas were issued by the UK.

A Home Office spokesman said the change would have a "significant impact" on the number issued this year but would not confirm reports it could cut the figure by tens of thousands.

News of the measures, which will not require legislation and will be introduced within weeks, comes a week after student visa applications from Nepal, northern India and Bangladesh were suspended amid a big rise in cases.

'Raise the bar'
Last year the UK introduced a system requiring students wishing to enter the country to secure 40 points under its criteria.

However, the government has faced criticism that this has allowed suspected terrorists and other would-be immigrants into the UK, only for them to stay on despite their visas being temporary.

In a statement, Mr Johnson said he made "no apologies for strengthening an already robust system".

He added: "We created our points-based system so that we could respond quickly to changing circumstances, when necessary, to raise the bar students have to meet to come to the UK.

"We remain open to those foreign students who want to come to the UK for legitimate study - they remain welcome.

"But those who are not seriously interested in coming here to study but come primarily to work - they should be in no doubt that we will come down hard on those that flout the rules."

Under the measures:
- Successful applicants from outside the EU will have to speak English to a level only just below GCSE standard, rather than beginner level as at present.
- Students taking courses below degree level will be allowed to work for only 10 hours a week, instead of 20 as at present.
- Those on courses which last under six months will not be allowed to bring dependants into the country, while the dependants of students on courses below degree level will not be allowed to work.
- Additionally, visas for courses below degree level will also be granted only if the institutions they attend are on a new register, the Highly Trusted Sponsors List.

Last weekend it emerged the UK Border Agency had temporarily suspended student visa applications from northern India, Nepal and Bangladesh.

Officials said they were acting after the system had been overwhelmed and concerns had been raised that many cases were not genuine.

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Re: Foreign student visas to be cut by UK

Post by crowbar6 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:31 am

sushdmehta wrote:
Foreign student visas to be cut by UK wrote:The number of visas granted to foreign students is to be cut by the UK as part of a crackdown on abuses of the system, Home Secretary Alan Johnson has said.

Mr Johnson said tougher rules would require applicants to speak English to a certain level and ban those on short UK courses from bringing dependants.

He said the rules were aimed not at genuine students but those who travelled to the UK primarily for work.

They follow a review ordered after the alleged failed Chicago plane bombing.

The review was ordered by Gordon Brown after he said the alleged Christmas Day bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who had studied in London, had linked up with al-Qaeda in Yemen after leaving the UK.

In 2008/9, about 240,000 student visas were issued by the UK.

A Home Office spokesman said the change would have a "significant impact" on the number issued this year but would not confirm reports it could cut the figure by tens of thousands.

News of the measures, which will not require legislation and will be introduced within weeks, comes a week after student visa applications from Nepal, northern India and Bangladesh were suspended amid a big rise in cases.

'Raise the bar'
Last year the UK introduced a system requiring students wishing to enter the country to secure 40 points under its criteria.

However, the government has faced criticism that this has allowed suspected terrorists and other would-be immigrants into the UK, only for them to stay on despite their visas being temporary.

In a statement, Mr Johnson said he made "no apologies for strengthening an already robust system".

He added: "We created our points-based system so that we could respond quickly to changing circumstances, when necessary, to raise the bar students have to meet to come to the UK.

"We remain open to those foreign students who want to come to the UK for legitimate study - they remain welcome.

"But those who are not seriously interested in coming here to study but come primarily to work - they should be in no doubt that we will come down hard on those that flout the rules."

Under the measures:
- Successful applicants from outside the EU will have to speak English to a level only just below GCSE standard, rather than beginner level as at present.
- Students taking courses below degree level will be allowed to work for only 10 hours a week, instead of 20 as at present.
- Those on courses which last under six months will not be allowed to bring dependants into the country, while the dependants of students on courses below degree level will not be allowed to work.
- Additionally, visas for courses below degree level will also be granted only if the institutions they attend are on a new register, the Highly Trusted Sponsors List.

Last weekend it emerged the UK Border Agency had temporarily suspended student visa applications from northern India, Nepal and Bangladesh.

Officials said they were acting after the system had been overwhelmed and concerns had been raised that many cases were not genuine.
Might as well. The scam had been going on for far too long now. As long as genuine students are not affected, this will be good.
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Post by Plum70 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:43 am

Unfortunately, some 'innocent' folks will be affected too. There can be no guarantee of 100% separation of good and bad in such a mess.

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Post by Pakhtoon » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:19 am

I believe a simple solution would be to ban those on student visa from working.
Their visa stamps should clearly mention that they are not allowed to work.

This will remove the incentive for bogus students.
“Terrorism is the war of the poor; war is the terrorism of the rich.â€

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Post by immigrationuk2009 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:43 pm

HI
inwarsaw wrote:I believe a simple solution would be to ban those on student visa from working.
Their visa stamps should clearly mention that they are not allowed to work.

This will remove the incentive for bogus students.
I believe Canda is best country for study and work and this give PR after 2 or 3 years..


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Post by Wanderer » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:53 pm

immigrationuk2009 wrote:HI
inwarsaw wrote:I believe a simple solution would be to ban those on student visa from working.
Their visa stamps should clearly mention that they are not allowed to work.

This will remove the incentive for bogus students.
I believe Canda is best country for study and work and this give PR after 2 or 3 years..


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Why the expectation that study should logically lead to PR? Anyway I very much doubt what you say is true, Canada's immigration laws are tougher than the UK's.
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Post by Sinner » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:30 am

what does this mean? these changes will take effect immediately or it will take sometime ?

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Post by Pakhtoon » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:54 am

Sinner wrote:what does this mean? these changes will take effect immediately or it will take sometime ?
The article that I read about it said 'in few weeks'.
“Terrorism is the war of the poor; war is the terrorism of the rich.â€

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Post by Markie » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:35 pm

latest info from BIA website.
Sinner wrote:what does this mean? these changes will take effect immediately or it will take sometime ?

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Post by Sinner » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:18 pm

All of these changes will come into force on 3 March 2010 and all Tier 4 applications submitted on or after this date will be subject to the new restrictions.

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Post by tier1in2014 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:55 pm

where did u find this info abt on 3 march 2010 they will start new rules.

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Post by Sinner » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:39 pm

go to the news page and on the right side there is a PDF doc named "Written ministerial statement - Tier 4 student visas "

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