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Its the truth, Jennifer.jennybean wrote:IRISH TOM: It is none of your business, and how dare you make defamatory statements like that, you dont know me or my Fiance.
Irelands unemployment figure was 100-150,000 during the good times. Granted a large number of these dolers but the unemployment rate never exceded 5%. Her fiance, who claims to have fled for his life,passed through mand safe countries, and came to Ireland(no direct flights). Hes from Nigeria. During the good times(2006), 68% of all Nigerians were unemployed. Ask yourself why people would travel half way around the globe and claim asylum on a little rock on the edge of europe....RattleSnake wrote:Tom , please take it easy lad .
If you would be so kind , please check out this link and read the post by Jenny , http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=51954
Many are legitimate alright, but not the Nigerians. Give me 10,000 genuine refugees from Haiti or Palestine instead of Nigerias middle class economic migrants. If he wants to work, why travel half way accross the globe to a country that does not allow "asylum seekers" work. Many countries allow "asylum seekers" work. Alas, they do not have a liberal benefit system like Ireland.RattleSnake wrote: I know that many abuse the sytem (it is heavily abused here in England also) but that does not mean every asylum seeker is abusing the system , many are legit and should be granted the right to stay and the right to work .
Take care sir
How do you know he got here by plane? There you are making assumptions again, please stop barrading my topic, if you want to discuss bogus asylum seekers, post it to the general discussion, and stop making assumptions and stereotyping about my Fiancé.IrishTom wrote:Her fiance, who claims to have fled for his life,passed through mand safe countries, and came to Ireland(no direct flights). Hes from Nigeria.
No direct ferries or boats either. Did he swim?jennybean wrote:How do you know he got here by plane? There you are making assumptions again, please stop barrading my topic, if you want to discuss bogus asylum seekers, post it to the general discussion, and stop making assumptions and stereotyping about my Fiancé.IrishTom wrote:Her fiance, who claims to have fled for his life,passed through mand safe countries, and came to Ireland(no direct flights). Hes from Nigeria.
I am not one for prejudicing one's claim. I respect the principle of being allowed to have a full and fair hearing. I fully understand that in places like the Delta Region, all is not well. But respectively, and in light of COI, please don't be so naive regarding the 0.01%.SBT_Owner wrote:I did not mean to come over as throwing stones at you Tom .
As for the 2 ealier posts . He could be part of the 0.01% and given JB's views on certain things (that i pointed out earlier) i would expect he shares her views and is looking to work hard and not live off the Irish benefit system .
I know that many abuse the sytem (it is heavily abused here in England also) but that does not mean every asylum seeker is abusing the system , many are legit and should be granted the right to stay and the right to work .
Take care sir
Why should I have to move out of my home country and leave all my friends and family?? I should be entitled to have my husband live with me, whether you think he is bogus or not, I dont really give a s**t what you think!IrishTom wrote:Your fiance is a bogus asylum chancer. Deport him. Wanna be with him, relocate to Nigeria. Its not as bad the Irish Times "migration correspondent" would make out. In fact, parts are quite nice. We have enough scammers, both home grown and foreign already. Thank you very much. Deport.
Id rather take 10,000 Haitans refugees than a single Nigerian economic migrant masquerading as an asylum seeker. Genuine refugees, welcome. Chancers, be gone.
No, no you shouldnt. Why should the Irish taxpayer fund an asylum scammer when the state is on the verge of insolvency? Why should we import more asylum scammers when Irish citizens are forced abroad?Monifé wrote:
Why should I have to move out of my home country and leave all my friends and family?? I should be entitled to have my husband live with me, whether you think he is bogus or not, I dont really give a s**t what you think!
Ever been to Palestine? Its a barrel of laughs for the average Joe alright. What with the economic blockade, Israeli rocket attacks and Hamas running the place like Tony fooking Soprano.Monifé wrote:You would rather take someone from Haiti... Well how do you know that they are not chancers? And you say you have to have a direct flight to Ireland to be a genuine asylum seeker... well there is no direct flights from Haiti or Palestine, so you are talking through your arse again!!
Wheres he going to work? As a non EU citizen he has feck all chance of work here now. Btw, it costs the state circa 80,000 euro per annum to house, feed, and clothe asylum seekers.Monifé wrote:Anyway, I thought your problem with foreign nationals was them being on the dole? My hubby to be will never be on the dole, I will make sure of that, it will be the very very last resort because we are both hard working people.
Hes an asylum scammer. Ive no sympathy for them. I did at the start, but it later transpired I was young and naive too.Monifé wrote:It upsets me the abuse you give to the people of your own country, never mind the complete hate you have for foreign nationals. How would you like it if the person you were in love with was facing these horrible times and someone of your own country was telling you they should be deported?? You should put yourself in others shoes before you make horrible comments like that!
Well there is no need to worry about my hubby to be costing the state anything, as he is living with me, and not in the provided accomodation.IrishTom wrote:Wheres he going to work? As a non EU citizen he has feck all chance of work here now. Btw, it costs the state circa 80,000 euro per annum to house, feed, and clothe asylum seekers.
I thought they had to live in direct provisions? You sure hes an asylum seeker.......Monifé wrote:Well there is no need to worry about my hubby to be costing the state anything, as he is living with me, and not in the provided accomodation.IrishTom wrote:Wheres he going to work? As a non EU citizen he has feck all chance of work here now. Btw, it costs the state circa 80,000 euro per annum to house, feed, and clothe asylum seekers.
So go and give out to the other asylum seekers that are unfortunate enough to have to live in the accomodation centres!
No they dont, if they have alternative accomodation, they just have to give the address and proof of address to the ORAC and they sign off on it.IrishTom wrote:
I thought they had to live in direct provisions? You sure hes an asylum seeker.......
Sound. Listen I am not going to reply on this thread no more as I will just rile you up. Either way, best of luck.Monifé wrote:No they dont, if they have alternative accomodation, they just have to give the address and proof of address to the ORAC and they sign off on it.IrishTom wrote:
I thought they had to live in direct provisions? You sure hes an asylum seeker.......
Thank youIrishTom wrote:Sound. Listen I am not going to reply on this thread no more as I will just rile you up. Either way, best of luck.Monifé wrote:No they dont, if they have alternative accomodation, they just have to give the address and proof of address to the ORAC and they sign off on it.IrishTom wrote:
I thought they had to live in direct provisions? You sure hes an asylum seeker.......