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rsathish wrote:Hi,
This maynot be the right forum, if so, I'll move it.
I was wondering if one can visit BOTs (British Overseas Territories) as a tourist under Tier 1 visa. I just want to be there for a week or two.
From http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/vafs/ - I get this form VAF8A which mentions 'is for use outside the UK only'.
Would this mean, I have to return to my home country and get a visa and THEN travel?
I've been going in circles with Cayman Islands embassy in London & UKBA HO, in trying to clarify this.
Any pointers pls?
Why are you looking on direct.gov.uk for the answer to your question?rsathish wrote:I had earlier called the Identity & Passport Office based on - http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTr ... DG_4016874
Where it states : "If you are a foreign national or Commonwealth citizen you will need a visa to visit British overseas territories (like Bermuda or Gibraltar). If you are already in the UK, the Identity and Passport Service (IPS) can supply you with a visa for these territories."
But, the guy on the advise line was like - the Passport Office has got nothing to do with issuing Visas & that they only deal with Passports.
So, I guess the London Passport office would have the same answer.
However, the >12months is promising, will dig out more. As you say if this holds good for Gibraltar, so should for Cayman. Will call them tomorrow.
Thanks.
Have a look at thisHaving a tier 1 visa doesn't entitle you to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder.
If you are referring to "Those nationals who feature in the chart above but hold valid UK Multiple entry visas which have been issued for 12 months or more, regardless of category, are eligible to enter Gibraltar (at the ultimate discretion of the Immigration Authorities) without the need for an additional visa." then i suggest you pay attention to the part in brackets.aruni4470 wrote:Have a look at thisHaving a tier 1 visa doesn't entitle you to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder.
http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/visa.php
meats wrote:If you are referring to "Those nationals who feature in the chart above but hold valid UK Multiple entry visas which have been issued for 12 months or more, regardless of category, are eligible to enter Gibraltar (at the ultimate discretion of the Immigration Authorities) without the need for an additional visa." then i suggest you pay attention to the part in brackets.aruni4470 wrote:Have a look at thisHaving a tier 1 visa doesn't entitle you to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder.
http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/visa.php
Even then, the part of my response that you quoted is still true.
Yes you do in the majority of cases. For the Caymans for example you can avoid the visa in several ways, none of which involve a tier 1 holder on a 1 way plane ticket like a British passport holder can do.aruni4470 wrote:meats wrote:If you are referring to "Those nationals who feature in the chart above but hold valid UK Multiple entry visas which have been issued for 12 months or more, regardless of category, are eligible to enter Gibraltar (at the ultimate discretion of the Immigration Authorities) without the need for an additional visa." then i suggest you pay attention to the part in brackets.aruni4470 wrote:Have a look at thisHaving a tier 1 visa doesn't entitle you to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder.
http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/visa.php
Even then, the part of my response that you quoted is still true.
Even if you have a valid visa, it is ultimately the immigration officer's decision whether to land you or not. I am not implying that having a Tier 1 visa entitles one to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder. As a Tier 1 visa holder you do not need separate visa to enter BOT if the immigration officer is happy about landing you.
sorry, could not get you. Can you pls explain a bit more in detail. Thanks.meats wrote:Yes you do in the majority of cases. For the Caymans for example you can avoid the visa in several ways, none of which involve a tier 1 holder on a 1 way plane ticket like a British passport holder can do.aruni4470 wrote:meats wrote:If you are referring to "Those nationals who feature in the chart above but hold valid UK Multiple entry visas which have been issued for 12 months or more, regardless of category, are eligible to enter Gibraltar (at the ultimate discretion of the Immigration Authorities) without the need for an additional visa." then i suggest you pay attention to the part in brackets.
Even then, the part of my response that you quoted is still true.
Even if you have a valid visa, it is ultimately the immigration officer's decision whether to land you or not. I am not implying that having a Tier 1 visa entitles one to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder. As a Tier 1 visa holder you do not need separate visa to enter BOT if the immigration officer is happy about landing you.
The English is perfectly fine and understandable.aruni4470 wrote:sorry, could not get you. Can you pls explain a bit more in detail. Thanks.meats wrote:Yes you do in the majority of cases. For the Caymans for example you can avoid the visa in several ways, none of which involve a tier 1 holder on a 1 way plane ticket like a British passport holder can do.aruni4470 wrote:meats wrote:
If you are referring to "Those nationals who feature in the chart above but hold valid UK Multiple entry visas which have been issued for 12 months or more, regardless of category, are eligible to enter Gibraltar (at the ultimate discretion of the Immigration Authorities) without the need for an additional visa." then i suggest you pay attention to the part in brackets.
Even then, the part of my response that you quoted is still true.
Even if you have a valid visa, it is ultimately the immigration officer's decision whether to land you or not. I am not implying that having a Tier 1 visa entitles one to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder. As a Tier 1 visa holder you do not need separate visa to enter BOT if the immigration officer is happy about landing you.
greatmeats wrote:The English is perfectly fine and understandable.aruni4470 wrote:sorry, could not get you. Can you pls explain a bit more in detail. Thanks.meats wrote:Yes you do in the majority of cases. For the Caymans for example you can avoid the visa in several ways, none of which involve a tier 1 holder on a 1 way plane ticket like a British passport holder can do.aruni4470 wrote:
Even if you have a valid visa, it is ultimately the immigration officer's decision whether to land you or not. I am not implying that having a Tier 1 visa entitles one to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder. As a Tier 1 visa holder you do not need separate visa to enter BOT if the immigration officer is happy about landing you.
Yep, just like every native Englishman would think.aruni4470 wrote:so you think..meats wrote:The English is perfectly fine and understandable.aruni4470 wrote:sorry, could not get you. Can you pls explain a bit more in detail. Thanks.meats wrote:
Yes you do in the majority of cases. For the Caymans for example you can avoid the visa in several ways, none of which involve a tier 1 holder on a 1 way plane ticket like a British passport holder can do.
meats wrote:Why are you looking on direct.gov.uk for the answer to your question?
'coz the Cayman Islands embassy in london asked me to - as they don't handle any passports/visas.
And the Passport Office has no real dealings with non-British passport holders or people applying for British passports so i don't know why it's sent you there. The FCO website will be of more use.
Go to FCO's website & select entry requirements - it will take you to UKBA's website. Back to Square 1.
Having a tier 1 visa doesn't entitle you to travel around British Overseas Territories like a British passport holder.
Using Tier 1, you can visit Channel Islands (I've been there, so can confirm) which is outside the UK, so to speak.
I really don't see any reason why an BOT should turn back a person who's already holding a residence permit to live and work in mainland UK. So, unless you're very sure pls limit your 'opinions'.
aruni4470 wrote: I think as a Tier 1 visa holder, you do not need a visa just to visit the BOT (assuming you would not be buying just a single ticket Smile ). Anyway, once you get any concrete information please let us know. All the best.