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They should get it. Its only if you have a speeding ticket that they will refuse you. Come on bro, this is the funniest thing ive heard all day.vladic wrote:Two friends arrived in Ireland from eastern europe (non EU) in 1999, and claimed asylum at the port. The had an Irish-born child in the mid 90s and have been on the temporary leave to remain sheme for parents of Irish born.
They have also been on social welfare/rent allowance/medical card etc since the day they arrived, and are currently waiting for a council house.
They haven't been in any trouble with the gardai other than minor motoring offences and domestic disturbance, but nothing has gone to court.
They want to apply for citizenship - will their social welfare record affect their application?
Serious question? All right, then. Here's a serious answer: No, it's very unlikely they will be granted citizenship since they've failed miserably on the 'Not being a burden on the Irish State' requirement. 10 years in Ireland and they haven't paid a cent in income and PRSI tax. Instead, they've spent 10 years in Ireland on the dime of many currently financially stretched and beleaguered tax payers.vladic wrote:It's actually a serious question.
If they apply for citizenship, what are they likely to be told?
As much as I hate IrishTom's ramblings, I must agree with him on this one. This just gives genuine asylum seekers/refugees a bad name. On social welfare, rent allowance etc etc for over 10 years, that is just crazy!!!! Fine to maybe be on it until their kids reach the age of primary schooling, but after that, nothing was stopping them getting a job, especially in the boom. That is a disgrace to be on the dole for that long.IrishTom wrote:So they can work they just chose to leech instead? We have enough scammers, thanks. They should be repatriated with haste.
I fear this is a troll guys . Well done to those that smelt the troll early onvladic wrote:I don't really want to get away from the point, they have just made use of the system that was presented to them. They have a good life: two cars, foreign holidays, mobile phones, games consoles and plasma TV etc. So why not? Their standard of living is higher than mine!
I'm not interested in judging - I just want to know what is the likelihood of citizenship, and what are the alternatives.
How come they only claimed asylum in 1999 when they already had an Irish born child in the mid-90s?Two friends arrived in Ireland from eastern europe (non EU) in 1999, and claimed asylum at the port. They had an Irish-born child in the mid 90s and have been on the temporary leave to remain scheme for parents of Irish born.
Yes, lots of these jobs were for cash. One has worked 20 hours per week in a few jobs (to keep social welfare entitlements).walrusgumble wrote:I must ask, in 1999, a majority of the inhabitants in this country could get jobs, even those who did not have status.
Whats the dole these days for a couple? 400 euro(guess)?vladic wrote:They were both recently able to renew for another 3 years their leave to remain because of Irish born, so the system must think they are ok?
One of the stipulations under the IBC scam was that those issued with leave to remain were not to become a burden on the state. These people can and should be deported.agniukas wrote:well, they cannot be deported, they are legal here, but they will definately won't get the naturalisation. so they are stuck as they are unless they change their ways of living.
Again I must completely agree with IrishTom, the social welfare system is there for people with genuine problems and who are genuinely struggling to pay bills, buy food. The fact that they are on the social, and have 2 cars, go on holidays etc etc is an absolute disgrace.IrishTom wrote: One of the stipulations under the IBC scam was that those issued with leave to remain were not to become a burden on the state. These people can and should be deported.
We are borrowing 100s of million per week. The state is not a cash cow for the leeches of this world. The social welfare system was set up as a safety net for those who find themselves facing hardtimes. Not a fishing net for foreign people who want to live off the Irish taxpayer.