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Then she is not qualified person.zafarzafar wrote:Hi rebel82,
If she is not exercising EU treaty right ? what could happen ?
Hi RizwanRizwan78 wrote:es we both are working full time till now.She is till in Ireland and working full time.I have Letters from Revenue Office with both our names.And I have Joined Bank statement as well.But if i go to Lawyer and tell him all the story, will it be good for me?
hmm this is going to be a regular occurance, as predicted during the kumar case, the family law courts will be busyrebel82 wrote:Then she is not qualified person.zafarzafar wrote:Hi rebel82,
If she is not exercising EU treaty right ? what could happen ?
At the end of the day when EUfam expires and apply for permanent residence EU citizen have to give evidence that she/he was exercising EU treaty rights for the period of 5 years.
it can be a problem at the end of the day.
She sounds like a bit of a wagon, to be honest. Let me guess, shes an eastern european? Play them at their own game, son. Dont trust some of them eastern europeans women. Mad for money. Get what you want and leave before they the have an opportunity to burn you.Rizwan78 wrote:I got Married to EU National in December 2006 and apply for 4EUFAM stamp. But DOJ refused my application in July 2007 like lot of other cases.But i hire a lawyer and got Stamp 4 in Fab2008 for 1 year and then got 4EUFAM Stamp in 2008 dated back from JUNE 2006.So I have 4EUFAM Stamp till JUNE 2012. But problem started now as me and my wife had lots of fights from last few months and she moved out.She is living her own and she rang me last week and asked me that she need money to pay her bills and other stuff.And she asked for big money and she told me that if i will not give her that money she will go to court and apply for Divorce and will write a letter to Immigration to cancel my Visa.And if I will give her money, she will be quite for another year.
My question is if we will apply for separation or Divorse, WILL IT AFFECT ON MY VISA? DO I HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY OR I WILL BE SAFE.I dont want to be blackmail by her.
Pls if some body can answer me.THANKS
Therefore there is an option for you to apply for retention of rights of residence.[b]Irish EEA Regulation 2006.( Regulation 10)[/b] wrote:
Retention of the right of residence by family members in the event of divorce, annulment of
marriage
10. (1) (a) Subject to subparagraph (b), a family member of a Union citizen who is a national of a
Member State may retain a right of residence in the State on an individual and personal
basis in the event of the Union citizen’s divorce or annulment of his or her marriage.
(b) Before acquiring an entitlement to permanent residence under Regulation 12, a family
member referred to in subparagraph (a) must satisfy one or more of the conditions
referred to in Regulation 6(2)(a)(i) to (iv).
(2) (a) Subject to subparagraph (b), a family member of a Union citizen who is not a national of a
Member State may retain a right of residence in the State on an individual and personal
basis in the event of the Union citizen’s divorce or annulment of his or her marriage.
(b) Subject to subparagraph (c), a right of residence referred to in subparagraph (a) shall only be
retained where the Minister is satisfied that -
Thats what happens when you rush into marriage to secure yourself residency !!Rizwan78 wrote:I got Married to EU National in December 2006 and apply for 4EUFAM stamp. But DOJ refused my application in July 2007 like lot of other cases.But i hire a lawyer and got Stamp 4 in Fab2008 for 1 year and then got 4EUFAM Stamp in 2008 dated back from JUNE 2006.So I have 4EUFAM Stamp till JUNE 2012. But problem started now as me and my wife had lots of fights from last few months and she moved out.She is living her own and she rang me last week and asked me that she need money to pay her bills and other stuff.And she asked for big money and she told me that if i will not give her that money she will go to court and apply for Divorce and will write a letter to Immigration to cancel my Visa.And if I will give her money, she will be quite for another year.
My question is if we will apply for separation or Divorse, WILL IT AFFECT ON MY VISA? DO I HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY OR I WILL BE SAFE.I dont want to be blackmail by her.
Pls if some body can answer me.THANKS
It is three years but either its you or someone else have to prove that the EU citizen was exercising EU treaty rights till the termination of marriage.zafarzafar wrote:Hi All,
Like in Rizwan there are many Non EU Spouses which are been blackmailed every day, Does any body know what is the legal time period that u must be living with your EU spouse to secure your residency ? I heard of 3 years. would your residency be secured if you apply for separation or Inform DOJ that u don't live together any more.
Am not rude or dearly beloved but most of the Eastern European girls are mad into money and they abuse their non EU husbands.
Please share your opinions/knowledge so the people like Rizwan could get benefit of it.
REspectively, you will not get one idota of sympathy. Ye the Eastern Women were mad about the money, but that did not stop those who sought and availed of their, eh, "services". Why didn't they, like normal people, take their time in their relationship and not rush into marriage??? Your deluded if, for what we are to believe in the media, that either spouses here are the victims; yer not! both get something out of it. the victims are the people of genuine marriages. I have seen a number of similar lines about this thing here, I always find it funny how the husband (a man where in their country, would not normally take any crap from a woman) is somehow now a victim of bullying & harrassment etc and how the break down of the marriage is not their faultzafarzafar wrote:Hi All,
Like in Rizwan there are many Non EU Spouses which are been blackmailed every day, Does any body know what is the legal time period that u must be living with your EU spouse to secure your residency ? I heard of 3 years. would your residency be secured if you apply for separation or Inform DOJ that u don't live together any more.
Am not rude or dearly beloved but most of the Eastern European girls are mad into money and they abuse their non EU husbands.
Please share your opinions/knowledge so the people like Rizwan could get benefit of it.
Family Law proceedings can be evoked, she may get damn all dosh as their are no children, she earns, length of marriageRizwan78 wrote:I dont have her payslips or P60 as she took everything when she left the house.But as I told you she is still living in Ireland and working full time.She just asked me for money and told me that is she will get that money she will quite for one year and then she want same amount of money after one year.
ANYBODY KNOW THE EXACT EU LAW THAT AFTER HOW LONG OF MARRIAGE NON EU PERSON IS SAFE ?
+1walrusgumble wrote: I always find it funny how the husband (a man where in their country, would not normally take any crap from a woman) is somehow now a victim of bullying & harrassment etc and how the break down of the marriage is not their fault.
Don't you think 'playing by the woman's rules till you get final papers' in itself is a proof that the marriage was for immigration purposes ?? Or the purpose of marriage has changed at least since you are clinging to the marriage just to keep your residency and not because you want to stay married.rlow68 wrote:The rules allowed you to divorce after 3 years, but my point is sometimes the DOJ dont follow th rules to the later, if you are working full time and she is also working full time, you just try and agree something with her, and in the next few years you get yr final papers, alternatively get the evidence that she is is blackmailing you, get copies of evidence that she is financially ok and pass this to yr solicitor, it might be handy in the future, but mind you if you allow her to inform the DOJ that she is not married to you anymore because you dont love her and only marry her because of paper, believe me, DOJ wil not listen to your excuse of blackmail, which means the married was fake from the beginning, that is why I initially advice you to play along with her, you 2 agree on your terms financially, that should be the best option. This situation happens to 2 of my friends, they are real marriages but in between the women were being advised by their peers that these guys may have married them not out of love, so it come to taking money from these boys, it was so difficult for them, but they play by the women's rules with common sence until they get their papers, one has got his Irish Passport the other has got indefinite residency, and the women has stop blackmailing them, as they realise these guys has nothing to fear again. so use yr sence and achieve your aim, u are in it already, people can advise you to damn the woman but mind you it is your life, you are even lucky you are working, if you are not working, she wont ask you before doing the divorce and claiming that she has not seen you for the past 2 years. that is it end of story.
He is here solely on the basis thatEl shaddai wrote:Hi Pakhtoon,
What decision do you expect the OP to take, to loose wife and loose residency?he need to choose one. if u are in that same situation what will you do?Especially when things are falling apart.the sustainance of a marriage is not in the hand of man