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Thanks, can she simply visit on the visitor visa after she has the baby?Casa wrote:Unfortunately your son's girlfriend will be unable to apply for a fiance or spouse visa to join him in the UK until she reaches the age of 21.
This applies to both her and your son.,,they both have to be 21 or over.
If she applies for a 6 month visitor visa and has the baby in the UK she would have to pay full costs for the birth and related pre-natal treatment.
When applying for the visitor visa she would have to submit strong evidence that she has a reason to return to the US...employment...property, study etc. This may be difficult in the circumstances. I would not advise her to attempt to enter visa-free as she may well be questioned at UK Immigration and returned to the US if they don't believe she is a genuine 6 months visitor/tourist.
By the way...even with the relatively new age restriction, there isn't a visa (as his girlfriend) which would allow her to enter and stay for 1 year while they were 'considering' marriage.
Six months in every 12 is the rule.Mick590 wrote:Thanks, can she simply visit on the visitor visa after she has the baby?Casa wrote:Unfortunately your son's girlfriend will be unable to apply for a fiance or spouse visa to join him in the UK until she reaches the age of 21.
This applies to both her and your son.,,they both have to be 21 or over.
If she applies for a 6 month visitor visa and has the baby in the UK she would have to pay full costs for the birth and related pre-natal treatment.
When applying for the visitor visa she would have to submit strong evidence that she has a reason to return to the US...employment...property, study etc. This may be difficult in the circumstances. I would not advise her to attempt to enter visa-free as she may well be questioned at UK Immigration and returned to the US if they don't believe she is a genuine 6 months visitor/tourist.
By the way...even with the relatively new age restriction, there isn't a visa (as his girlfriend) which would allow her to enter and stay for 1 year while they were 'considering' marriage.
also, will she be able to continue to visit on 6 months visas as long as she keeps returning to the US?
So basically they are screwed for being under 21?Wanderer wrote:Six months in every 12 is the rule.Mick590 wrote:Thanks, can she simply visit on the visitor visa after she has the baby?Casa wrote:Unfortunately your son's girlfriend will be unable to apply for a fiance or spouse visa to join him in the UK until she reaches the age of 21.
This applies to both her and your son.,,they both have to be 21 or over.
If she applies for a 6 month visitor visa and has the baby in the UK she would have to pay full costs for the birth and related pre-natal treatment.
When applying for the visitor visa she would have to submit strong evidence that she has a reason to return to the US...employment...property, study etc. This may be difficult in the circumstances. I would not advise her to attempt to enter visa-free as she may well be questioned at UK Immigration and returned to the US if they don't believe she is a genuine 6 months visitor/tourist.
By the way...even with the relatively new age restriction, there isn't a visa (as his girlfriend) which would allow her to enter and stay for 1 year while they were 'considering' marriage.
also, will she be able to continue to visit on 6 months visas as long as she keeps returning to the US?
And re Casa's point about geniune visitor, if they question and detain her makes the visa in the future extra hard.
Thanks all,Wanderer wrote:1. Yes
2. Makes no difference unless they live in USA
3. No
4. No - if they marry she'd be almost certainly denied entry to UK the assumption being that with a husband in the UK she'd not return - makes thigs worse in fact and doesn't entitle her to any special treatment as a spouse.
The only way is to wait, or maybe she can get a student visa here maybe via BUNAC or they can both live in the EU and return to UK after six months uner surinder singh ruling. Search the site for that - it's been gone over dozens of times here.
Sorted! He can apply for an Irish passport and she can enter the UK as his Family Member after they marry!Mick590 wrote:My father, his grandad is from Northern IrelandWanderer wrote:Does she have any European/Commonwealth heritage? Or does ur son have any, like an Irish grandparent?
Not sure about her family tree, but will check. Any particular avenues to explore?
The Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform is responsible for determining entitlement to citizenship in accordance with the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Acts, 1956 to 2004.Wanderer wrote:Sorted! He can apply for an Irish passport and she can enter the UK as his Family Member after they marry!Mick590 wrote:My father, his grandad is from Northern IrelandWanderer wrote:Does she have any European/Commonwealth heritage? Or does ur son have any, like an Irish grandparent?
Not sure about her family tree, but will check. Any particular avenues to explore?
It's all free too! Northern Irish people are counted as Irish too for the purposes of Irish nationality.
U'll need to collect a fair bit of paperwork, birth, marriage and death certs for the tree - google Foreign Births Register Ireland and thank me profusely.
If your son is with the royal navy then I would suggest you have a look at this recent change where the govt will allow the spouse of someone who is under 21 and in the army to apply for a spouse visa following marriage.Mick590 wrote:Thanks all,Wanderer wrote:1. Yes
2. Makes no difference unless they live in USA
3. No
4. No - if they marry she'd be almost certainly denied entry to UK the assumption being that with a husband in the UK she'd not return - makes thigs worse in fact and doesn't entitle her to any special treatment as a spouse.
The only way is to wait, or maybe she can get a student visa here maybe via BUNAC or they can both live in the EU and return to UK after six months uner surinder singh ruling. Search the site for that - it's been gone over dozens of times here.
Problem is, he's in training with the Royal Navy now. So living oversees is a non starter.
Even if she came here as a student, there would be massive fees no doubt! I'll look into it though.
Seems so unfair that they can't simply marry, get legally registered & pay tax. Seems hiding under a lorry gets you more rights than trying the correct channels!
It would be useful if you could update us with the process as then we can pass on the knowledge to those who may find themselves in the same situation in the futureMick590 wrote:Thanks lads/lasses!mochyn wrote:As from the 6th April those who are serving in the Armed Forces are allowed to apply for spousal visa at the age of 18
It looks like this will help a great deal!
Glad I found this site.
Mick