(we plan on vacationing there first of course)
Things in the States have gotten out of control, so we have decided to start a plan to pack up and move in the next 2 or 3 years
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I WROTE THIS IN THE WRONG SECTION SORRY!phantomzangel wrote:My boyfriend and I are planning on moving to Ireland. We're doing our research and making sure we are making the right decision. Our interest lies in County Cork, which is actually where my family is originally from. My family name "Carroll" immigrated to the states back in 1914. I was wondering if anyone had any tips? I heard the Quality of life is better there, the health care, and the economy. I've read many sites and researched until my eyes went sore. lol Whatever tips you can give me would be highly appreciated.
(we plan on vacationing there first of course)
Things in the States have gotten out of control, so we have decided to start a plan to pack up and move in the next 2 or 3 years
Caaaark? The accent would drive you mad. Just kidding, beautiful place, especially West Cork.phantomzangel wrote:My boyfriend and I are planning on moving to Ireland. We're doing our research and making sure we are making the right decision. Our interest lies in County Cork, which is actually where my family is originally from. My family name "Carroll" immigrated to the states back in 1914. I was wondering if anyone had any tips? I heard the Quality of life is better there, the health care, and the economy. I've read many sites and researched until my eyes went sore. lol Whatever tips you can give me would be highly appreciated.
(we plan on vacationing there first of course)
Things in the States have gotten out of control, so we have decided to start a plan to pack up and move in the next 2 or 3 years
Have you ever heard of RyanAir? If you think Ireland is such a bad place, why not avail of their services?TRV wrote:I am sorry to hear that you chose Ireland to move to. Ireland success stories ended few years ago, now all that is left is messed up version of Ireland. I would strongly recommend that you look somewhere else. It is your decision of course but don't say no one warned you. good luck.
I guess you are more of antagonistic in this forum. Of course, there is nothing bad in critizing and airing you opinion but you should try to be more constructive.IrishTom wrote:]I am sorryto hear that you chose Have you ever heard of RyanAir? If you think Ireland is such a bad place, why not avail of their services?
Ireland offers much more than just a place to earn money. Its not an industrial estate nor an ATM. It is a nation with a rich culture. It offers one of the best standards of living in the world. Of course, with economic meltdown, the numbers arriving will decrease. But the OP is a member of the Irish diaspora, who, during the boom, we treated disgracefully*. She obviously feels a bond with the country.koded wrote:I guess you are more of antagonistic in this forum. Of course, there is nothing bad in critizing and airing you opinion but you should try to be more constructive.
If this person(TRV) had said that Ireland is economically good, you will still attack him. He was just advising that this person should try other country and you want him to leave the country.
It is certain that Ireland is messed up at the moment and of course other EU countries are not better.
I completely agree with this 200%.Ireland offers much more than just a place to earn money. Its not an industrial estate nor an ATM. It is a nation with a rich culture. It offers one of the best standards of living in the world. Of course, with economic meltdown, the numbers arriving will decrease.
I propose that someone that works in this country is entitled to social welfare when they need it and is NOT a burden on the state.TRV wrote:Wow !!!
IrishTom mate, I am here because your irish government came to my country looking for healthcare professional due to shortage of qualified specialist doctors in Ireland. Believe it or not, they gave job offer letter in my country when they were there for two weeks recruitment campaign. I am working here from day one for the last 11 years and so does my partner. We did not take any of your low paid jobs.
I am part of Irish economic boom and bust as much as you are. I am merely stating the facts. I am concerned about this country as much as you do. I do not want another person (irish descent or foreigner or whoever) come here to live could not find a job and goes on social welfare becoming burden to you and me as a tax payer.
By the way, Ryan air do not fly to my ex home country, it is Irish airline as you know, can't fly too far... good luck matey...
And refugees(no problem with that) and failed asylum seekers given leave to remain(massive problem with that).Ben wrote:EEA nationals (and their family members are), in certain circumstances.sovtek wrote:Someone who has never worked here is not entitled to social welfare as far as I'm aware.
Not all people who failed in their asylum application but got leave to remain should be put into the same circle you have put. I hear what you are saying, but, for various reasons, people from Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and Zimbabwe have been granted ltr and not refugee status. the reason for this was because refugee status is a very narrow defintion. Its not enough merely to be a person in a war zone if you or people like you (ie religious section or ethnicity). You must have being persecuted on a conventional ground ie political (meaning real association with a political party or cause), religion, etc. This is not always easy to prove. One often needs documents to prove this. How many would be lunitic enough carrying around eg mdc membership in really really bad days, no more than 3 years ago?IrishTom wrote:And refugees(no problem with that) and failed asylum seekers given leave to remain(massive problem with that).Ben wrote:EEA nationals (and their family members are), in certain circumstances.sovtek wrote:Someone who has never worked here is not entitled to social welfare as far as I'm aware.
EEA nationals can claim in Ireland once they have made one PRSI contribution here and 2 years worth in another EU country.
I agree, only if the state is able to do so and only if that person has resided and work in Ireland at least by 3-5 years.Anything less, I am sorry, but would be open to potential abuse, and then genuine people will be getting alot of nonsense. Where someone is on a work permit, their permission to remain here is solely on the basis that they continue to work! it says this on the passport stamp, so its not like the person was not aware of this. If someone loses their permit then they either have to get a new job or leave. No different to other countries? In fairness, you saw that at the end of last year, the department gave some form of amnesty to people who were undocumented through no fault of their own.sovtek wrote:I propose that someone that works in this country is entitled to social welfare when they need it and is NOT a burden on the state.TRV wrote:Wow !!!
IrishTom mate, I am here because your irish government came to my country looking for healthcare professional due to shortage of qualified specialist doctors in Ireland. Believe it or not, they gave job offer letter in my country when they were there for two weeks recruitment campaign. I am working here from day one for the last 11 years and so does my partner. We did not take any of your low paid jobs.
I am part of Irish economic boom and bust as much as you are. I am merely stating the facts. I am concerned about this country as much as you do. I do not want another person (irish descent or foreigner or whoever) come here to live could not find a job and goes on social welfare becoming burden to you and me as a tax payer.
By the way, Ryan air do not fly to my ex home country, it is Irish airline as you know, can't fly too far... good luck matey...
Someone who has never worked here is not entitled to social welfare as far as I'm aware.
Yes its messed up and yes we all have been suckered, but Ireland is trying to get out of it, unlike certain other EU states (I really pitty Germany and their people who tend to have to pick up the tabs) And under no uncertain terms should legal migrants who have contributed (most the non nationals in irleand fall under that category) be made scapegoats. (as for illegals, I blame the authorities for their lack of transparency and delays in causing so many court cases)CheGuevara wrote:The Irish economy is messed up, i guess that is what you get when you elect Quacks and employ incompetent people as heads of financial institutions and now lets not even go to the corruption in the system,, Now lets not be blaming these on Migrants..
Yes, stop blaming Migrants and lay the blame for incompetence on the doors of your politicians. To be fair they are getting it sorted and i dont feel sorry for Germany or any other country because they all made money from recklessness but at least Germany and other countries who were responsible would see to it that their is genuine change.walrusgumble wrote:Yes its messed up and yes we all have been suckered, but Ireland is trying to get out of it, unlike certain other EU states (I really pitty Germany and their people who tend to have to pick up the tabs) And under no uncertain terms should legal migrants who have contributed (most the non nationals in irleand fall under that category) be made scapegoats. (as for illegals, I blame the authorities for their lack of transparency and delays in causing so many court cases)CheGuevara wrote:The Irish economy is messed up, i guess that is what you get when you elect Quacks and employ incompetent people as heads of financial institutions and now lets not even go to the corruption in the system,, Now lets not be blaming these on Migrants..
the same can be said about the US, Britian and anyone else who has been dossed in these economic troubled times and unwanted wars. What has your country done? Ye didn't seem to confident of yer countries when ye left for here.