Child Registration Success (MN1) For Child Born in Uk

[TC]

We have got PR (EEA route).
Older child born in UK before we got PR, younger one after we got PR.

Can we send MN1 for Older one now?
What about the younger one? Apply for Passport direct?

thanks

I think you are OK with the MN1 for the older child but am not sure about the Passport for younger as when applying for the passport they also ask for registration certificate which you do not have.
Joh, JaJ or other expert here can answer that question.
Good luck..

Second child is already British and hence no need for registration. Apply for passport directly with proof that parent had ILR at the time of birth.

Thanks petra and TC for your comments.

I am apllying for passport for the younger.

The older one already received "Registration Certificate" on blue card with covering letter "ECD.3107" when we got our PR(confirmation) last week.
So I am really confused now.
Can anybody please confirm what do you get after succesful MN1 application?
Which document and What is the covering letter no?

Regards

By what you are saying, it looks like you already have a registration certificate for your older child as well. One should not forget that there are special considerations for children born in UK to EEA parents. An expert or moderator could help?

Have a look at this document.

http://www.covlaw.org.uk/immigration/leaflets/imm33.pdf

[RayJay]

I think you are OK with the MN1 for the older child but am not sure about the Passport for younger as when applying for the passport they also ask for registration certificate which you do not have.
Joh, JaJ or other expert here can answer that question.
Good luck..

Second child is already British and hence no need for registration. Apply for passport directly with proof that parent had ILR at the time of birth.

Thanks petra and TC for your comments.

I am apllying for passport for the younger.

The older one already received "Registration Certificate" on blue card with covering letter "ECD.3107" when we got our PR(confirmation) last week.
So I am really confused now.
Can anybody please confirm what do you get after succesful MN1 application?
Which document and What is the covering letter no?

Regards

By what you are saying, it looks like you already have a registration certificate for your older child as well. One should not forget that there are special considerations for children born in UK to EEA parents. An expert or moderator could help?

Have a look at this document.

http://www.covlaw.org.uk/immigration/leaflets/imm33.pdf

thanks TC I have read the same kind of info in MN1 guidance.
However I hope you are right, and thats why I am confused, I do not want to apply for something I already have.


Would anybody please share what document the child is issued after successful MN1 application? i.e. what the document called "Registration Certificate ?" and what the number of the covering letter that comes with if any.

Thanks

[TC]

MN1 applications for two children born in UK for parents, who acquired ILR after the births.

NCS/Postal: Postal
Date of Application: Posted by Special Delivery on 4/03/2010
Date received by Home Office: 5/03/2010
Payment Processed: on 11/03/2010.
Acknowledgement Received: 17/03/2010. (dated 11/03 by 2nd class)
Phoned Home Office: on 25/03/2010 A very helpful lady said that a decision has already been made and documents posted on 23/03/2010
Two registration certificates received by separate 1st Class mails on 26/03/2010.

Thank God registration of my children as British Citizens has been successful. For others who apply for registration by post, I would recommend enclosing one of the parent's passport which has ILR stamp for sake of peace of mind.

When I was away I have also received a message from Secure Mail Services Ltd. to rearrange a delivery. I think it is our passports and other original documents.

[TC]

Second child is already British and hence no need for registration. Apply for passport directly with proof that parent had ILR at the time of birth.

Thanks petra and TC for your comments.

I am apllying for passport for the younger.

The older one already received "Registration Certificate" on blue card with covering letter "ECD.3107" when we got our PR(confirmation) last week.
So I am really confused now.
Can anybody please confirm what do you get after succesful MN1 application?
Which document and What is the covering letter no?

Regards

By what you are saying, it looks like you already have a registration certificate for your older child as well. One should not forget that there are special considerations for children born in UK to EEA parents. An expert or moderator could help?

Have a look at this document.

http://www.covlaw.org.uk/immigration/leaflets/imm33.pdf

thanks TC I have read the same kind of info in MN1 guidance.
However I hope you are right, and thats why I am confused, I do not want to apply for something I already have.


Would anybody please share what document the child is issued after successful MN1 application? i.e. what the document called "Registration Certificate ?" and what the number of the covering letter that comes with if any.

Thanks

My Children's certificates say

Certificate of Registration
as
British Citizen

It is golden yellow in colour.

The covering letters are simple letters and do not have any number.

We are from outside EU. I hope this information is helpful

[RayJay]

Thanks petra and TC for your comments.

I am apllying for passport for the younger.

The older one already received "Registration Certificate" on blue card with covering letter "ECD.3107" when we got our PR(confirmation) last week.
So I am really confused now.
Can anybody please confirm what do you get after succesful MN1 application?
Which document and What is the covering letter no?

Regards

By what you are saying, it looks like you already have a registration certificate for your older child as well. One should not forget that there are special considerations for children born in UK to EEA parents. An expert or moderator could help?

Have a look at this document.

http://www.covlaw.org.uk/immigration/leaflets/imm33.pdf

thanks TC I have read the same kind of info in MN1 guidance.
However I hope you are right, and thats why I am confused, I do not want to apply for something I already have.


Would anybody please share what document the child is issued after successful MN1 application? i.e. what the document called "Registration Certificate ?" and what the number of the covering letter that comes with if any.

Thanks

My Children's certificates say

Certificate of Registration
as
British Citizen

It is golden yellow in colour.

The covering letters are simple letters and do not have any number.

We are from outside EU. I hope this information is helpful

congratulations and thanks for your replies.
So Its confirmed that I need to apply for my older child on MN1 under section 1(3).
there is some mention of it on wiki to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_na ... 06_onwards
All I need now is help filling the MN1 form , I have already started another thread for it, could you please have a look and see if you could help too. (I think you did not apply under s1(3) but still)
regards

[puneetk123]

We were blessed with twins, born in UK, on 21st Dec 2009 & during that time our (parents only) application for "Indefinite Leave to Remain" was under process. We received our settlement on 13th Jan 2010.

My query is, to register our twins as British Citizen
1) Do we first need to apply for her non-British Passport
2) Get it endorsed with "ILR" visa - I think this not required judged by your response.
3) Or can we straight away apply for registration as British Citizen by submitting form MN1. If yes, then I assume child's present nationality (Section 1 of form MN1, clause 1.9) will be same as that of her parents even though we don't have her passport & as her proof of identity we have her UK birth certificate.
4) Do I need to submit 2 applications with separate fees (£460+£460)
Thanks in advance for your guidance.

MN1 applications for two children born in UK for parents, who acquired ILR after the births.

NCS/Postal: Postal
Date of Application: Posted by Special Delivery on 4/03/2010
Date received by Home Office: 5/03/2010
Payment Processed: on 11/03/2010.
Acknowledgement Received: 17/03/2010. (dated 11/03 by 2nd class)
Phoned Home Office: on 25/03/2010 A very helpful lady said that a decision has already been made and documents posted on 23/03/2010
Two registration certificates received by separate 1st Class mails on 26/03/2010.

Thank God registration of my children as British Citizens has been successful. For others who apply for registration by post, I would recommend enclosing one of the parent's passport which has ILR stamp for sake of peace of mind.

When I was away I have also received a message from Secure Mail Services Ltd. to rearrange a delivery. I think it is our passports and other original documents.

[John]

There is no need to obtain non-British passports for the twins, or to get them ILR. There is an entitlement to British Citizenship, under section 1(3).

Fee? Take a look at this UKBA document, where you will see that the fee will be £567 .... assuming the applications are made at the same time .... and of course they will be!

[puneetk123]

Many thanks for the prompt response John. Would the following suffice in terms of the other things required along with the applications?
Mandatory-

• Birth Certificates
  4 Photos (2 each)
  Marriage Certificate
  2 Referrals
  Fathers Passport

There is no need to obtain non-British passports for the twins, or to get them ILR. There is an entitlement to British Citizenship, under section 1(3).

Fee? Take a look at this UKBA document, where you will see that the fee will be £567 .... assuming the applications are made at the same time .... and of course they will be!

[John]

Yes, that looks to be the complete list.

I think you will be surprised just how quickly entitlement applications under section 1(3) are dealt with ..... usually well less than a month. And why not, there is no discretion for UKBA to exercise ... instead just a simple need to check documents, showing for example that you do indeed have ILR, and the births were in the UK.

[amreenmalik]

Dear All,
I am Indian recently got ILR including my wife and a child born in U.K.
I am planning to apply for British passport for my child.
Should I first apply for registration with MN1 form and then go for British passport or can I go for British passport straight away.
Please advice.
Thanks.

[bobo77]

Dear All,
I am Indian recently got ILR including my wife and a child born in U.K.
I am planning to apply for British passport for my child.
Should I first apply for registration with MN1 form and then go for British passport or can I go for British passport straight away.
Please advice.
Thanks.

We need to know which came first, your ILR or your child?

[amreenmalik]

First, the child was born two years ago.
Got ILR last week for all of us.

[John]

Thanks for that. Your child is not yet British but there is an entitlement for Registration as British, under section 1(3).

A quick and easy procedure, and pain-free, apart from the cost of the application! Section 1(3) applications are taking less than a month to be processed.

Having received the Certificate of Registration, then a British Passport can be obtained.

[amreenmalik]

Thanks for that. Your child is not yet British but there is an entitlement for Registration as British, under section 1(3).

A quick and easy procedure, and pain-free, apart from the cost of the application! Section 1(3) applications are taking less than a month to be processed.

Having received the Certificate of Registration, then a British Passport can be obtained.

Thanks for that John.
So I must use the MN1 form to apply for the registration as British. But I could not find the payment page in the application. Could somebody please tell me where can I find the payment page and please confirm the amount as well.

Thanks.

[bobo77]

Thanks for that. Your child is not yet British but there is an entitlement for Registration as British, under section 1(3).

A quick and easy procedure, and pain-free, apart from the cost of the application! Section 1(3) applications are taking less than a month to be processed.

Having received the Certificate of Registration, then a British Passport can be obtained.

Thanks for that John.
So I must use the MN1 form to apply for the registration as British. But I could not find the payment page in the application. Could somebody please tell me where can I find the payment page and please confirm the amount as well.

Thanks.

get the payment slip here:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/?requ ... &Submit=Go

[puneetk123]

Thanks again John. Another question - I have got a referral from a friend of mine but it is very hard to get a second referral from some one who knows the children in professional capacity. Because the GP, kids are registered with, has declined to provide referral as they don't want to disclose their personal details. Is there any guidance in situation like these?

Many thanks in advance.

Yes, that looks to be the complete list.

I think you will be surprised just how quickly entitlement applications under section 1(3) are dealt with ..... usually well less than a month. And why not, there is no discretion for UKBA to exercise ... instead just a simple need to check documents, showing for example that you do indeed have ILR, and the births were in the UK.

[Simpson246]

aaanjoo,


3. If the child is born before parents got ILR, then he needs to apply for MN1 and then apply for British PP.

Could you please guide me on this, I will be applying for ILR on 5 yrs WP basis in Oct 2010. Along with wife who has been a dependant since May 2007. son born in UK in May 2009, his dependant visa also expires in November 2010. Can I exclude him whilst my case is being processed for ILR and then apply for MN1? and what is his immigration status during this time. Or should I include him as well for ILR and take it from there?

Thanks in advance,
Simpson

[bobo77]

aaanjoo,


3. If the child is born before parents got ILR, then he needs to apply for MN1 and then apply for British PP.

Could you please guide me on this, I will be applying for ILR on 5 yrs WP basis in Oct 2010. Along with wife who has been a dependant since May 2007. son born in UK in May 2009, his dependant visa also expires in November 2010. Can I exclude him whilst my case is being processed for ILR and then apply for MN1? and what is his immigration status during this time. Or should I include him as well for ILR and take it from there?

Thanks in advance,
Simpson

How come your visa expires in Oct and his in Nov

But I dont see why you shoudnt apply for his ILR when you apply for yours.

[f2k]

aaanjoo,


3. If the child is born before parents got ILR, then he needs to apply for MN1 and then apply for British PP.

Could you please guide me on this, I will be applying for ILR on 5 yrs WP basis in Oct 2010. Along with wife who has been a dependant since May 2007. son born in UK in May 2009, his dependant visa also expires in November 2010. Can I exclude him whilst my case is being processed for ILR and then apply for MN1? and what is his immigration status during this time. Or should I include him as well for ILR and take it from there?

Thanks in advance,
Simpson

It is NOT necessary for you to apply for child's ILR.

@bobo77 it cost another £129 (postal) / £154 (premium) per dependent so that is something to consider. I think the OP will be applying in Oct 2010 some 28 days b4 visa expires in Nov

[f2k]

Thanks for that John.
So I must use the MN1 form to apply for the registration as British. But I could not find the payment page in the application. Could somebody please tell me where can I find the payment page and please confirm the amount as well.

Thanks.

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[Simpson246]

aaanjoo,


3. If the child is born before parents got ILR, then he needs to apply for MN1 and then apply for British PP.

Could you please guide me on this, I will be applying for ILR on 5 yrs WP basis in Oct 2010. Along with wife who has been a dependant since May 2007. son born in UK in May 2009, his dependant visa also expires in November 2010. Can I exclude him whilst my case is being processed for ILR and then apply for MN1? and what is his immigration status during this time. Or should I include him as well for ILR and take it from there?

Thanks in advance,
Simpson

It is NOT necessary for you to apply for child's ILR.

@bobo77 it cost another £129 (postal) / £154 (premium) per dependent so that is something to consider. I think the OP will be applying in Oct 2010 some 28 days b4 visa expires in Nov

Thanks bobo77 and Raj,
Yes, I will be applying in Oct., i.e. 28 days prior, and all our Visas are valid till November.
Will there be any immigration status/further issues for my son if I exclude him in our application for ILR?.
Regards.

[bobo77]

aaanjoo,


3. If the child is born before parents got ILR, then he needs to apply for MN1 and then apply for British PP.

Could you please guide me on this, I will be applying for ILR on 5 yrs WP basis in Oct 2010. Along with wife who has been a dependant since May 2007. son born in UK in May 2009, his dependant visa also expires in November 2010. Can I exclude him whilst my case is being processed for ILR and then apply for MN1? and what is his immigration status during this time. Or should I include him as well for ILR and take it from there?

Thanks in advance,
Simpson

It is NOT necessary for you to apply for child's ILR.

@bobo77 it cost another £129 (postal) / £154 (premium) per dependent so that is something to consider. I think the OP will be applying in Oct 2010 some 28 days b4 visa expires in Nov

Thanks bobo77 and Raj,
Yes, I will be applying in Oct., i.e. 28 days prior, and all our Visas are valid till November.
Will there be any immigration status/further issues for my son if I exclude him in our application for ILR?.
Regards.

I don't think there will be any issue but I think it just makes sense to let the kids have ILR so everything is ticked, If you are willing to pay the £120 of course

[bobo77]

Thanks again John. Another question - I have got a referral from a friend of mine but it is very hard to get a second referral from some one who knows the children in professional capacity. Because the GP, kids are registered with, has declined to provide referral as they don't want to disclose their personal details. Is there any guidance in situation like these?

Many thanks in advance.

Yes, that looks to be the complete list.

I think you will be surprised just how quickly entitlement applications under section 1(3) are dealt with ..... usually well less than a month. And why not, there is no discretion for UKBA to exercise ... instead just a simple need to check documents, showing for example that you do indeed have ILR, and the births were in the UK.

I had the same problem, I called and I was told to get another friend to sign.

[bobo77]

• MN1 applications
• 2 children born in UK
• Parents aquired ILR after the births.

NCS/Postal: Postal
Date of Application: Posted [Special Delivery] on 22/03/2010
Date received by Home Office: 23/03/2010


Will update as soon as I have any news

15 April 2010 = UKBA returned [passports.
17 April 2010 = Received Certificates

Will apply for passport on Monday

[John]

Yet more proof that entitlement applications under section 1(3) are taking less than one month to process.

Congratulations!