Spousal Visa Application - Pakistan

Post by **batleykhan** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:17 pm

Zak_K wrote:Salaam all. Just thought I'd give you a solution for the folks who don't use itemised billing.

O2 have an offer on at the moment (although it is a trial, so grab it while you can) which will let you make Unlimited (although everyone knows it won't exactly be truely unlimited) International calls to one number for Â£5/month. This is available for both PayG and Pay Monthly tariffs.

So go on, throw them phone cards in the bin

http://iff.o2.co.uk/default.aspx

Zak.

Good idea Zak. I would strongly reccomend this if you can get itemised bills from it.

Do you know the most common reasons for refusal from Pakistan is now where the applicant and sposnsor cant provide evidence that they keep in touch with each other after marriage because they all use cheap calling cards where you dont get itemised billing and therefore cant prove this point to the ECO.

You obviously dont have to be on the phone to your spouse every moment of teh day. 3 x 5 mins call per week to your spouse should be more than enough for the ECO, that you are indeed genuinely married.

Just remember to put the the telephone numbers on the application form when you are applying

deemi · Post by **deemi** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:24 pm

Thanks bately

just had it checked and it has been signed and stamped by oath commissioner of multan (confirming translation i believe) and protocol officer of foreign affairs.

Can't say that it says that it is a true translation on it but do you think it is helpful that at least it is signed as well as stamped??

Thanks for all your help.

Suhaib 786 · Post by **Suhaib 786** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:49 pm

Just an update to the brothers & sisters who i promised an update to regarding my wifes visa application in islamabad.

STILL NO RESPONSE!!.. submitted 03 march 2010 - 6 weeks this wednesday and i sent an email to the ukhub & that islamabad appeals address- 1 week on and NO reply

Emailed Gerrys in islamabad cuz i know somestimz the case is ready but its just left in islamabad collecting dust. Guess wat - NO repli= 80 000 PKR

MONEY WELL SPENT !?!?

inshallah just make dua that Allah bring the day close inshallah... ameen

'what killed the cat....lolz'

zmk2 · Post by **zmk2** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:13 pm

batleykhan wrote:Zak

There is no need for you to use any agents. All you do is download and complete the application form from UKBA website.

Complete it yourself, and get your wife to sign it and then ask her to make an appointment with Fedex to have her TB and fingerprints done as well as hand the application in along with your supporting documents.

Once she has done that, that is the end of the story and your wait begins to hear the decision. Its something that you can do without the need of any agents.

If you want advise and assistance then maybe contact a reputable advisors such as IAS in Pakistan.

I think you will find that more than 90% of applications are done and dealt with by the person applying than getting agents involved

Hi just wanted to ask what do you do if Your wife cant sign the form. Can
she use her finger print as her sign.

Post by **batleykhan** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:11 pm

Hi just wanted to ask what do you do if Your wife cant sign the form. Can she use her finger print as her sign.

NO you cant use thumbprints on this form. Just show how her name is written and then get her to write it down like that.

The signature is not that important thing and its unlikely they will check upon it.

zmk2 · Post by **zmk2** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:55 pm

batleykhan wrote:
Hi just wanted to ask what do you do if Your wife cant sign the form. Can she use her finger print as her sign.
NO you cant use thumbprints on this form. Just show how her name is written and then get her to write it down like that.

The signature is not that important thing and its unlikely they will check upon it.

Batleykhan can you help
Hi there, i dont have any savings , but i get regular wage of 900 or above after tax. would that be suffiecnt.Also i need help with sponsor letter what do i need to include in that. any advice will be very appreciated. thanks

salman7777 · Post by **salman7777** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:53 am

batleykhan wrote:
I am not sure about the ministry of foreign affairs stamp plus the magistrate's stamp hopefully Cool Batley khan would solve this puzzle
There is no no need to get anything signed by any departmental office in Pakistan.

The original nikkah namah( in Urdu) should have the seal of the Union Council on it.

If you look somewhere on the internet you will be able to come across an English version of the nikkah nammah. All you do is to tranfer the information from the Urdu one (like Name of union Council, tehsil, name and age of bridegroom, date and place of wedding, the witnesses, person performing nikkah, mehr etc) onto teh English one.

There is no need for the signature of witnesses, just write their names. There is no need to stamp the English one from the Union Council ( again just write the name.

Once you have done, then get the person who translated it for you to put something like " Certified to be a true translation of the nikkah nammah of ( names of bride/bridegroom).

He then needs to sign it and, if he is a proffesional person and had a stamp, get him to stamp it. That should be enough.

If anybody wants to have it done in the UK.I know someone who will do it for Â£20, just pm me. The ones done in UK tend to more reliable as the person who does translation will put down exactly whats on there, whereas in Pakistan, you could get people put down what you want them instead of whats actually on the document.

All the ECO wants is to see an English translation of the nikkah nammah as part of his evidence to determine the application.

Hope this helps

Thanks BatleyKhan and NavalAviator.

1 - I have one stamp on my Nikah Nama "THE SEAL OF THE NIKKAH REGISTRAR". It shows the union council without any signature of the Registrar. The imam has signed the copy though. From your post above, I believe I should now have another stamp "Seal of the Union Council...." and that's all I need for the urdu version. Is that right?

2 - For the financial evidence, the sponsor can provide P60s of this year and last year (even for previous years) to demonstrate decent earnings from professional jobs over last years. It's just that there is no employment for few months due to personal reasons. There is an opinion that the ECO may consider the case if sufficient funds are available for two of us. There needs to be a common understanding of the term "sufficient" and the time period. Any views/experiences on this point are much appreciated.

3 - If we have been been married (Nikahofied) for just a month or so, then there may not be a proof of regular contact as we are not living apart from each other. Is that OK?

4 - Appreciate your insight regarding the tenancy agreement (6 month validity requirement at the date of application) and the housing capacity report.

BTW, I still can't get to the UKVISAS.gov.uk website. Not sure if there is a problem with my server.

khalid83 · Post by **khalid83** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:18 am

Salaam everyone,

I just joined this site and maybe the topic is already discussed but i need some info.

I am from Holland which is an EEA country and i also have a PR in the UK. I have been residing in the UK for 7 years. My wife submitted an EEA family permits application in Islamabad, Pakistan about a month ago and with her application she included the following supporting statements.

1) Three wage slips and a letter of my employer confirming my employment status
2) Tenancy agreement
3) Three months bank statements
4) My buy to let mortgage statement and also the tenancy agreement for this property
5) Bank statements showing my savings
6) house inspection report
7) a copy of PR and passport

Nikah Nama and its transalation
9) Marriage Photos

I just want to know how long the whole process will take and what does Application forwarded to Islamabad OC on .. means. Apart from tracking visa via internet is there any other way of tracking your visa i.e a telephone number of Gerry's in Islamabad, the one provided on their web page doesn't work. Are there any issues recently with Visa application to UK in Islamabad?

Thank you

I hope you guys can help me.

Thank you,

navalaviator · Post by **navalaviator** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:24 am

BTW, I still can't get to the UKVISAS.gov.uk website. Not sure if there is a problem with my server.

well then do the following if you have'nt done yet to get on to uk visas website

If you are using IE 7(internet explorer 7) then do the following.

Am not sure about other browsers if you are using opera or firefox etc.

1.open a new window from the file menu and it would hopefully turn up with your already set home page then search for google.com.pk(if in you are in pak at the moment) or google.co.uk(for uk).
(Do this step if your home page is not set to google and has been set to yahoo etc)

2.when the google search engine appears search and type exactly for uk visas website and it would come up with results showing the ukvisas website then its pretty straight forward to click on the website and this time it should open the website with out any trouble.

or
you can open the website by typing ukvisas.go.uk in the address bar at the type of your currently opened window as well.

if it still does'nt open up the website then there might be some issue with the security settings of your internet explorer,try to lower the security settings of your explorer by opening the properties of your explorer and
click the privacy tab and lower the slider to medium or for an added security to medium high

just try to work your way out with different settings.

you could try a different computer to open the website

Post by **batleykhan** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:28 am

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/

Why not just click on this link. Its a lot easier than above

navalaviator · Post by **navalaviator** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:39 am

batleykhan wrote:http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/

Why not just click on this link. Its a lot easier than above

Uncle with due respect i posted the above link couple of of times before on the previous page but it did,nt work for him so thats why i posted the above

zmk2 · Post by **zmk2** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:43 pm

Batleykhan can you help
Hi there, i dont have any savings , but i get regular wage of 900 or above after tax. would that be suffiecnt.Also i need help with sponsor letter what do i need to include in that. any advice will be very appreciated. thanks

Post by **batleykhan** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:49 pm

zmk2 wrote:Batleykhan can you help
Hi there, i dont have any savings , but i get regular wage of 900 or above after tax. would that be suffiecnt.Also i need help with sponsor letter what do i need to include in that. any advice will be very appreciated. thanks

Your chances are 50/50 because you have no savings. Why havent you got any?. Surely if you get married you need that little extra bit of money in a saving account for a rainy day. You will need to send a breakdown of what you have coming in and what you have going out, so the ECO is fully aware of your circumstances

The sponsor letter letter and declaration you want can be found here
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=51723

You will ned the SD as per the above. The letter could be similar format to above but you have change the wording to suit your own needs and personal circumstances

salman7777 · Post by **salman7777** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:34 pm

batleykhan wrote:http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/

Why not just click on this link. Its a lot easier than above

BatleyKhan, Navalaviator,

Let me take a look on my browser settings. Appreciate your responses (or from other members) to other 4 important points in my last post.

Suhaib 786 · Post by **Suhaib 786** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:46 pm

Salaamz guys.

Just an update, after having sprayed an email to literalli all diffrnt address'z possible 4 my wifez settlemnt visa i got repli frm gerryz islamabd 2day

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email. Iâ€™ve checked and found out that your application is not yet returned from the British High Commission.

Applications can be delayed if further checks are required. You may email to visa.abudhabi@fco.gov.uk for further information.

Kindly keep a track on our website, www.ukvacpk.com .

We appreciate your understanding and trust in our service.

Regards
ISLAMABAD VAC MANAGER
UK VISA APPLICATION CENTRE
Gerrys FedEX International
Islamabad Pakistan

So still waiting 6 weekkz on, im thinking of involving my MP.. but i guess if the state they can take upto 12weekz therz not much grond im petitionin on.
The wait is an absolute killer.. man u wake up and itz the 1st thing ringing in ur mind. Mashallah my case was solid but im thinking are they trying hard to mayb trip sum peopl up over supid reasonz. BOTTOM LINE GUYZ IZ UR LUCK - WHICH SIDE OF THE BED THE ECO GOT UP ON!!

Houtha Hai Houtha Hai.... Vouhi Houtha Hai Jou Manzoor eh Kudha Hotha Hai#

zs786 · Post by **zs786** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:21 pm

Suhaib 786 wrote:Salaamz guys.

Just an update, after having sprayed an email to literalli all diffrnt address'z possible 4 my wifez settlemnt visa i got repli frm gerryz islamabd 2day

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email. Iâ€™ve checked and found out that your application is not yet returned from the British High Commission.

Applications can be delayed if further checks are required. You may email to visa.abudhabi@fco.gov.uk for further information.

Kindly keep a track on our website, www.ukvacpk.com .

We appreciate your understanding and trust in our service.

Regards
ISLAMABAD VAC MANAGER
UK VISA APPLICATION CENTRE
Gerrys FedEX International
Islamabad Pakistan

So still waiting 6 weekkz on, im thinking of involving my MP.. but i guess if the state they can take upto 12weekz therz not much grond im petitionin on.
The wait is an absolute killer.. man u wake up and itz the 1st thing ringing in ur mind. Mashallah my case was solid but im thinking are they trying hard to mayb trip sum peopl up over supid reasonz. BOTTOM LINE GUYZ IZ UR LUCK - WHICH SIDE OF THE BED THE ECO GOT UP ON!!

Houtha Hai Houtha Hai.... Vouhi Houtha Hai Jou Manzoor eh Kudha Hotha Hai#

Bro i know how you are feeling! It will be a month this friday since my wife applied and yet no response. She applied at Mirpur

The olny thing i can suggest is may things will be delay by several days/ a week or so as i believe the VACs and Bristsh High Commision were shut for 5 days for an IT upgrade this time last month

Also there were the Easter Holiday period which i believe the BHC would have been closed for a few days.

What does your application status say when you tack online, ours is still Application forwarded to Islamabad OC, its been like that since the day my wife submitted her application

InshAllah we and everyone else in this situation will hear positive news soon

navalaviator · Post by **navalaviator** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:48 pm

What does your application status say when you tack online, ours is still Application forwarded to Islamabad OC, its been like that since the day my wife submitted her application

When application is submitted the online status shows forwarded to islamabad oc and it finally changes when the passport is ready for collection after the application has been processed and ready for collection.

online application status is updated from islamabad oc to passport or documents ready for collection only once.

zmk2 · Post by **zmk2** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:19 am

Hi there, just wanted to ask do we have to have the form SU07/01 filled out, Or do we just fill the VAF4A spousal settlement form.

Post by **batleykhan** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:08 am

zmk2 wrote:Hi there, just wanted to ask do we have to have the form SU07/01 filled out, Or do we just fill the VAF4A spousal settlement form.

You only fill the VAF4A out. Dont bother with other one its not required.

Also whatever you do dont use those thiefing rat bag agents that hang around in Islamabad and say they will do everything for you.

Someone has just emailed me to say that they paid 12000PkRs to one such agent. He has lost her some of her documents and accused her of not supplying them in the first place.

Shakeel101 · Post by **Shakeel101** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:18 pm

Hi all,
My wife's apeal was accepted, the UKBA accepted they were wrong and the ECO reversed his decision without having to go to appeal. Since then I have submitted my wifes passport for it to be stamped with a visa.

It has been 4 weeks as of yet no response.

does anyone know if they have any guidlines around this? The staff at the mirpur Gerry's are contacting me back when I email them, but everything on the UKBA side seems to be silent with regards to this.

mrh_786 · Post by **mrh_786** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:17 pm

Salaam,

Great work, found a lot of useful info on this board.

For the stats:

Application Submitted: 26th March 2010
Type: Spouse Visa
VAC: Mirpur
Status: Application forwarded to Islamabad oc on

The waiting continues......

Jameel17 · Post by **Jameel17** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:08 pm

Shakeel101 wrote:Hi all,
My wife's apeal was accepted, the UKBA accepted they were wrong and the ECO reversed his decision without having to go to appeal. Since then I have submitted my wifes passport for it to be stamped with a visa.

It has been 4 weeks as of yet no response.

does anyone know if they have any guidlines around this? The staff at the mirpur Gerry's are contacting me back when I email them, but everything on the UKBA side seems to be silent with regards to this.

6 weeks ive been waiting will be 7 ths friday. I got email saying decision has been made and to wait for a call from the VAC

zs786 · Post by **zs786** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:48 pm

zs786 wrote:
Suhaib 786 wrote:Salaamz guys.

Just an update, after having sprayed an email to literalli all diffrnt address'z possible 4 my wifez settlemnt visa i got repli frm gerryz islamabd 2day

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email. Iâ€™ve checked and found out that your application is not yet returned from the British High Commission.

Applications can be delayed if further checks are required. You may email to visa.abudhabi@fco.gov.uk for further information.

Kindly keep a track on our website, www.ukvacpk.com .

We appreciate your understanding and trust in our service.

Regards
ISLAMABAD VAC MANAGER
UK VISA APPLICATION CENTRE
Gerrys FedEX International
Islamabad Pakistan

So still waiting 6 weekkz on, im thinking of involving my MP.. but i guess if the state they can take upto 12weekz therz not much grond im petitionin on.
The wait is an absolute killer.. man u wake up and itz the 1st thing ringing in ur mind. Mashallah my case was solid but im thinking are they trying hard to mayb trip sum peopl up over supid reasonz. BOTTOM LINE GUYZ IZ UR LUCK - WHICH SIDE OF THE BED THE ECO GOT UP ON!!

Houtha Hai Houtha Hai.... Vouhi Houtha Hai Jou Manzoor eh Kudha Hotha Hai#
Bro i know how you are feeling! It will be a month this friday since my wife applied and yet no response. She applied at Mirpur

The olny thing i can suggest is may things will be delay by several days/ a week or so as i believe the VACs and Bristsh High Commision were shut for 5 days for an IT upgrade this time last month

Also there were the Easter Holiday period which i believe the BHC would have been closed for a few days.

What does your application status say when you tack online, ours is still Application forwarded to Islamabad OC, its been like that since the day my wife submitted her application

InshAllah we and everyone else in this situation will hear positive news soon

I emailed the Mirpur VAC to see if they could give me any update. Plus my wife paid for the SMS tracking service they have recently introduced which is meant to give tracking updatesof the application, my wife has only had one SMS from them received on the day she applied confirming the application reference number.

More details of the SMS tracking service can be found below:
http://www.ukvacpk.com/additional.aspx

Any way here is their email response:

Thank you for your mail ! I have checked & would like to inform you that passport of your spouse is still under process with UKBA and she will be informed on receipt of the same for the collection. At present, about 95% Applications are being processed by UKBA within 6 weeks, 98% Applications are being processed within 12 weeks and 100% Applications are being processed within 24 weeks. As regard to SMS service, Applicants receive the texts at following stages :-

1.Application submitted to post for process.
2.Application is under process with post.
3.Application received from post and ready for collection.
4. Application has been delivered from counter.

We appreciate your understanding and trust in our services.

Kind regards,
Mirpur VAC Manager,
UK Visa Application Centre,
Gerry's International,
Mirpur, Azad Kashmir

zmk2 · Post by **zmk2** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:10 pm

batleykhan wrote:
zmk2 wrote:Hi there, just wanted to ask do we have to have the form SU07/01 filled out, Or do we just fill the VAF4A spousal settlement form.
You only fill the VAF4A out. Dont bother with other one its not required.

Also whatever you do dont use those thiefing rat bag agents that hang around in Islamabad and say they will do everything for you.

Someone has just emailed me to say that they paid 12000PkRs to one such agent. He has lost her some of her documents and accused her of not supplying them in the first place.

SO IF i download the form and fill it can my wife hand that form in.

kaidee · Post by **kaidee** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:13 am

Aside from my passport copy, birth certificate copy, NIC card copy, do I (as teh sponsor) need to get anything else attested? Does the title deed of a property have to be attested? (if so it is strange, as you don't get to see the original).

Also is it worth mentioning if one's spouse is pregnant?

Ta

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