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I am not sure about the authenticity of the jobs posted within the portal.. Probably someone from the field could help me in answering that.T1_Mainframe wrote:You can check on job sites e.g. jobserve.com or monster.co.uk
Do check if jobs advertised for Project Managers give sufficient weightage to certifications in project managements. I believe their primary requirement/expectation is experience in sought area.
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npanglia wrote:I am not sure about the authenticity of the jobs posted within the portal.. Probably someone from the field could help me in answering that.T1_Mainframe wrote:You can check on job sites e.g. jobserve.com or monster.co.uk
Do check if jobs advertised for Project Managers give sufficient weightage to certifications in project managements. I believe their primary requirement/expectation is experience in sought area.
Cheers!
My focus area of interest is "Lean Six Sigma Black Belt" Consulting.
Please advice
I do agree that experience plays a key role in any kind of profile. However Whats your take on 4+ years of experience with respect to market where it is more in Process improvements related to Lean and Six Sigma?pansi wrote:I think in UK Prince-2 is required instead of PMP. You might be needing good project management experience along with the certification to get the job of a PM.
Thanks a lot for the insights. It really is helpful.kenfrapin wrote:Many out here do a lot a certifications to better their career prospects. That being said, PMs or even Associate PMs have much more than 4 yrs exp to even get a role managing projects.
I can only provide info in the Telecom and probably a few product management domains in the IT sector but that should throw some light. Contracting PMs either have 6 yrs plus exclusively in PM and given the market now, even they find it difficult. Permanent employees get into assisting PMs on small projects and in time have a shot at getting into full fledged PM. Again, 4 yrs will not help you secure any such role in the UK.
PMP is recognized and so is Prince 2. But niche skills in managing projects, tough market conditions, many jobless local and migrant PMs and the sector you are looking out for determine your chances. In general, PM roles are not very easy to come by these days as there is stiif competition for the big roles. There is no junior PM roles usually open for lateral hiring as this is managed by pushing internal employees.
I have no idea about Six Sigma so no help there
Cheers
KP
I won't completely agree to that. The reason they prefer Brits is that they understand the work culture by default. However while I was in UK, there were people from different nationalities who were holding high ranks within the organization. In short term - Local guys can be prefered, however in the long run "survival of the fittest" exist - which means it is all performance oriented.ilrseeker wrote:npanglia,
With an MBA + Six Sigma + PMP, I would say you are better off in India th
an UK.
Here large businesses are less and its really tough to get management roles despite of your qualification and experience.
Local Brit guys are preferred in most of the mgmt jobs irrespective of sector/domain - is the fact.
If you wish to realize you talent, India is 'The' place.
I do agree that the major proportion of top management positions are with local guys. But it doesn't mean talented people are ruled out. It might not happen overnight but yes, it can happen over a period of timeilrseeker wrote:I have worked with big names in UK. Believe me 95% of middle and top management positions are held by locals.
There are 5% which you can see divided amongst european, chinese,carrebeans and some by Indians of which again 90% are people from Indian companies who are executing managed projects in UK which has an onsite-offshore model.
The team lead positions are also very difficult to get because even though you maybe technically the best, your communication skills can never be at par with theirs.
The fact though bitter remains the same that there are very few management roles out there in the market , out of which you have to be amongst that 5% .
Unfortunately it does - The basis behind this is simple - irrespective of one's nationality, middle and top management posts are only given to locals or those with relevant management skills.But it doesn't mean talented people are ruled out
ilrseeker wrote:npanglia ...have u got relevant mgmt skills alongwith MBA+SixSigma+PMP?middle and top management posts are only given to locals or those with relevant management skills.
You sound very manager to me. But, it doesn't work the way it work in India.npanglia wrote: As per my understanding, I have been handling few centers of my company for driving improvement projects on the board.
Worked on consulting assignments as well abroad on process re-engineering and excellence.
Let me know,How do you define RELEVANT experience in this context?