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I second this post.Procrastinator wrote:Guys, I have a feeling that me and nowayout are going to hear from the UKBA in the coming 2 weeks.
And I really got offended after leaving my last post on this message board; somebody tried to teach me as if I know nothing... in fact me and kiwigirl are both living in this country longer than majority of you guys so we know things better in this country... I don't wanna be rude but don't try to teach us.
14 years application waiting time is 6 months... that's for sure... a person who submiited application in 2006 and got his ILR in 2009 is just exceptional case or maybe they used to deal this 14 years residence case in years.... now the current waiting time is 6 months like 10 years applicants... though it is going to be 9 months now since I lodged my application but they have completed all the necessary checks, they asked me for the evidence that I was in the UK between 2000-2003 last month which I sent my bank statement and University ID cards and letters from the Student Records Office from my University, it is nearly a month now... I'll give them 6 weeks after submitting further requested documents... 4 weeks gone so I am expecting to hear in coming 2 weeks.
coolboyuk wrote:Procrastinator and Kiwigirl. just a note. How on earth being here longer than Us [ 10 year legal stay] means you guys know better than us????. it not a question of who knows better, it [ this thread] is all about sharing the unconfirmed news, rumours, etc.
also, i just want to mention that we all [most of us] had to pay FULL tution fees during our 10 year LEGAL stay [ £10,000 per annum avg]. we could have simply made a choice NOT being legal and stayed here for 14 years and made some decent amount of money . but we . did not want to do that .
so, please think twice before you throw some words , as we ALL are in a same boat with different tickets. thats all.
as we ALL are in a same boat with different tickets. thats all.
so, please think twice before you throw some words
It's for 10 year applicants. A couple of 14 year applicants post here because this is the only place they have to go and up to now they were accepted and were getting the support they needed and giving that support back to the 10 year legal applicants. However someone stirred up an old argument and you've now added to it with your comment. Thanks for that.Cardi wrote:Hi Guys,
I have applied for my ILR (10 years legal residence) on 19th April 2010. I guess there is a long wait ahead of me...hoping for positive and staying positive....
(Sorry, is this thread for 10 Year Legal ILR or is it for 14 year Illegal ILRs as well???, or is it for both? judging by the Name of the Topic, i thought itis for 10 year Legal stay ILRs...Please correct me if I am wrong..)
Thanks
Yup, you're right Beige. I'm heading back to my play pen to calm downBeige wrote:Illegal or legal, we all still continue to wait. No point in fighting or arguing over irrelevant things. The waiting period comes down to the discretion of the UKBA so we can all sit here and make assumptions and still end up being wrong.
I did but it was quickly "closed" down. 14 year applicants are usually too scared to post here and we usually support each other via PM. I wonder why they're scared, do you know? So I came here and politely asked if I could join, which was quite brave of me, and this was accepted by all. Today is the only day I have acted out of character and fought with another poster. Coolboyuk and I got on extremely well until today. Please read the entire thread before making comments on my character.Cardi wrote:Kiwigirl, if you are really Brave enough, then why dont you open your own Thread for 14 Year Residence ILRs? where you can have productive conversation with applicants like yourself...
..otherwise coming to 10 Year residence ILR Thread and make arguements with almost everyone by argueing and thrying to say some points which relate to 14 Year ILRs is not really what we 10 year applicants want...
...So Please go and open your own Separate thread for 14 Year ILRs instead of contaminating this Thread which is dedicated for 10 Year ILRs...
Cardi wrote:Kiwigirl, if you are really Brave enough, then why dont you open your own Thread for 14 Year Residence ILRs? where you can have productive conversation with applicants like yourself...
..otherwise coming to 10 Year residence ILR Thread and make arguements with almost everyone by argueing and thrying to say some points which relate to 14 Year ILRs is not really what we 10 year applicants want...
...So Please go and open your own Separate thread for 14 Year ILRs instead of contaminating this Thread which is dedicated for 10 Year ILRs...
Thanks for your support sweetie I still gonna take some time out because I'm a very emotional, easily upset, kiwigal today. Can you not tellBeige wrote:Cardi wrote:Kiwigirl, if you are really Brave enough, then why dont you open your own Thread for 14 Year Residence ILRs? where you can have productive conversation with applicants like yourself...
..otherwise coming to 10 Year residence ILR Thread and make arguements with almost everyone by argueing and thrying to say some points which relate to 14 Year ILRs is not really what we 10 year applicants want...
...So Please go and open your own Separate thread for 14 Year ILRs instead of contaminating this Thread which is dedicated for 10 Year ILRs...
Quite frankly, I think thats a very unfair statement to make. In the time I've been here, she's been nothing but supportive, even digging out information about timelines for us 'legals'! It is very unfair to discriminate as you never know what situation you may find yourself in future.
Agree with coolboyuk. Length of stay in a country, per se, in no guarantee that you know better than people who have stayed legally in the UK for 10 years and played by the rules throughout their stay in the UK.How on earth being here longer than Us [ 10 year legal stay] means you guys know better than us????.
This is, I am afraid, subtly preparing grounds for what is known as a ‘straw man’ argument.Some people are quick to jump to the conclusion that illegals rely on handouts therefore do not warrant the same level of "respect"(? - not sure if that is the word I'm looking for) as legals.
This works both ways. Generally speaking, posts on the lines of ‘we know better as we have stayed in the UK longer’ do not exactly foster spirit of kinship with 10 year continuous legal stay ILR applicants on this particular thread.That goes the same for you legal chaps. Add some sensitivity to your replies to a 14 year applicants instead of adding bold statements about 2-3 years waits.
This strategy may be interpreted by some as trying to put the other party on the defensive by playing the ‘martyr’ card.Now you're kicking me out of this thread on the first day you've posted because you think I don't belong. OK, so be it.
Trust me, all 10 year continuous legal stay ILR applicants here are not unemotional robots either but human beings like you and who may be just as emotional and easily upset as you are….10 year continuous legal stay applicants played by the rules through out their stay in the UK and yet have to wait sometimes for months on end after their ILR applications (so also going through a very stressful and emotionally upheaving period after having applied for ILR).I still gonna take some time out because I'm a very emotional, easily upset, kiwigal today.
kiwigirl25 wrote:coolboyuk wrote:Procrastinator and Kiwigirl. just a note. How on earth being here longer than Us [ 10 year legal stay] means you guys know better than us????. it not a question of who knows better, it [ this thread] is all about sharing the unconfirmed news, rumours, etc.
also, i just want to mention that we all [most of us] had to pay FULL tution fees during our 10 year LEGAL stay [ £10,000 per annum avg]. we could have simply made a choice NOT being legal and stayed here for 14 years and made some decent amount of money . but we . did not want to do that .
so, please think twice before you throw some words , as we ALL are in a same boat with different tickets. thats all.
First, I don't want to fall out over this.
Secondly, I never said that I was better or know more than anyone else here. Procrastinator, who made the point, meant that we come on here and are told "you have a 2-3 year wait", we respond "the official targets are 6 months" and then are told "NO it's 2-3 years" and this conversation cycles through until someone gives up. Then the "legal" comments start.
Thirdly, I didn't dispute that you haven't paid full tution fees because I know that overseas students have to paid full tution fees. I used it as an example in comparison that whilst you don't understand my decision/circumstance I don't understand your circumstance but I've accepted it and do not feel the need post negative comments about it each time someone questions their waiting time and the possible reasons behind this. Instead I'm nothing but supportive. Also I referred to my paying full tution fees to reiterate my point that I have fully contribute to the economy despite my illegal status. Some people are quick to jump to the conclusion that illegals rely on handouts therefore do not warrant the same level of "respect"(? - not sure if that is the word I'm looking for) as legals.
Fourthly, we are all individuals and made our own decisions. Unfortunately for us overstayers this was not a wise decision and we've broken immigrations laws. But we've made a brave decision by declaring ourselves to UKBA. We could have stay put because we've been here so long no-one dares to question our immigration status. I for one didn't wait all this time because I knew I could apply for my ILR. I didn't even know this policy existed until November 2009 and I came across it accidently.
as we ALL are in a same boat with different tickets. thats all.
How very true, but ...
so, please think twice before you throw some words
That goes the same for you legal chaps. Add some sensitivity to your replies to a 14 year applicants instead of adding bold statements about 2-3 years waits. Even when I produced a link to an official Government document dated Feb 2010 which stated that this timescale was unlawful and 6 months should be maximum, this was disputed by a 10 year applicant.
The regular posters couldn't careless about people's current status and it's these people I enjoy chatting to. It's the "irregulars" that wade in and stir up old "arguments". I'm not here to make enemies I'm here for sense of community. Then someone comes on with their bold and caps to put me and others like me in my place. Just like you did then coolboyuk. It's not very nice I know you're LEGAL and I know you paid FULL tutions fees. Don't treat me like an idiot because I made one idiot decision in my life.
Oh and since you edit your post, have I ever said being illegal was okay? You'll find the answer to that is no. You know for a fact that I am ashamed of my actions and feel nothing but guilt. I am extremely grateful that I have a way out. I feel blessed. I also didn't say that students shouldn't be granted ILRs. I simply said I didn't understand what your situation as you don't mine. I don't need to know what your qualifications are, quite frankly I don't care. I didn't make fun of students, why would I went I was one myself? I made light of my friend who has openly admitted to me that she is always enrolling on new courses so she can reach her 10 year milestone. Now, I'm not saying that anyone here has done that, I'm saying that her actions is the reason why I don't understand 10 year students. But she is my best friend and will always be. For the record she's apalled by my actions!!
sa - I'll stop fighting now.
Well, I am sure you meant 10 year legal continuous legal stay applicants as later while describing 14 year ILR applicants, you have correctly described them as 'While I acknowledge the fact that 14 year applicants'.Firstly to the 10 year people.
Not entirely factually correct (slightly misleading statement) as the main matter in issue was not that they cannot 'offer feedback or solace from this thread'….the point in contention may have been somewhat overbearing post(s) by some of them e.g. suggesting they know better etc. because they have been in the UK for a longer time....I do not see why they cannot offer feedback or seek solace from this thread.
But then later foxy writes:One must realise that not all 14 year applicants came here on the back of a lorry and have evaded the law since.
I certainly don't think they deserve any more esteem than the ‘lorry clandestines’.
Of course, and if my Uncle was a female, she would be my Aunty….but ‘foxy’ the point still remains, whatever your personal feelings, when these “studentsâ€And these "students" may be certainly a lot more numerous than one would tend to believe
Kiwigirl25, congratulations for being appointed a Moderator on this forum....hey wait on.... you are still just an ordinary member like me on this forum....so hardly in the position to behave like a judge and jury passing judgements on, to suit your agenda, who is (and not) trolling on this forum.....It's best, I think, if we leave issue(s) like who is (and not) trolling on this thread to the Moderators of this forum?optimist_eternal - your posts are border-line trolling.
So, according to you, I've tried to 'wind you up a couple of times'....hmm....so does all this 'wind' make you a bit 'gassy'?You've tried to 'wind' me up a couple of times
Lady, talking of 'wind', please allow me to quote a line from the rubbish 'Gone with the wind' i.e. 'Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn'....so why don't you just save your breath to cool your porridge.Keep on going, as you can see from my earlier post it's working.
kiwigirl25 wrote:I did but it was quickly "closed" down. 14 year applicants are usually too scared to post here and we usually support each other via PM. I wonder why they're scared, do you know? So I came here and politely asked if I could join, which was quite brave of me, and this was accepted by all. Today is the only day I have acted out of character and fought with another poster. Coolboyuk and I got on extremely well until today. Please read the entire thread before making comments on my character.Cardi wrote:Kiwigirl, if you are really Brave enough, then why dont you open your own Thread for 14 Year Residence ILRs? where you can have productive conversation with applicants like yourself...
..otherwise coming to 10 Year residence ILR Thread and make arguements with almost everyone by argueing and thrying to say some points which relate to 14 Year ILRs is not really what we 10 year applicants want...
...So Please go and open your own Separate thread for 14 Year ILRs instead of contaminating this Thread which is dedicated for 10 Year ILRs...
Now you're kicking me out of this thread on the first day you've posted because you think I don't belong. OK, so be it.
You're a new member and a new poster and therefore I think it's very rude for you to come into this topic when you haven't contributed anywhere near as much as Kiwigirl and try and suggest that she's not welcome here. Also furthermore she's not a disease and therefore words such as 'contamination' are hugely offensive.Cardi wrote:
Kiwigirl, by judging your recent comments you have made since you posted the above post, you have proved once again that you are an uneccessary distruction in this forum.
We, 10 Year Legal applicants, in this very Thread dedicated to 10 Year ILRs, do not want unneccessary distruction and contamination from 14 Year Illegal applicants like yourselv.
I am very much interested to know the experiences of 10 Year ILRs in this thread which is specifically dedicated for 10 Year ILRs.
I am of a strong opinion that 14 Year ILRs should be disccussed in other threads dedicated to 14 Year applicants...