NEW LAWS JULY 2011

[EFR3]

However bad news is both Tory and Lib Dam agreed to put a cap on immigration

... with no details in their agreement so far.
Question is whether this cap will affect those already present in the UK or be mostly about the newcomers?..

they didnt give detail but they clearly mentioned about the annual limmit on the economic migrant as far as i know economic migrant and student will have tough time.

[adil2009]

Let see what gonna happend now with bill?

[mrlookforward]

Let see what gonna happend now with bill?

Which/What bill?

[EFR3]

Let see what gonna happend now with bill?

Which/What bill?

he is talking about this bill check this link.
http://www.workpermit.com/news/2009-09- ... ements.htm

[mrlookforward]

It was a bill, not anymore. Its an ACT.

[EFR3]

It was a bill, not anymore. Its an ACT.

The main three parties agreed on the bill when it was passed and got Royal Assent in july last year. UKBA has now removed that info from their website i dont realy know what happend whether the new govt going to change something or just completly finishining it.

I know about the ID card that tory party was against that but dont know what about that Earned citizenship even that bill passed through parliment (both houses).

[dimsav]

The main three parties agreed on the bill when it was passed and got Royal Assent in july last year. UKBA has now removed that info from their website i dont realy know what happend whether the new govt going to change something or just completly finishining it.

New immigration minister seems to be not a big fan of new PBS at all, read here and here.

I know about the ID card that tory party was against that but dont know what about that Earned citizenship even that bill passed through parliment (both houses).

Both Tories and LibDem put scrapping ID cards in their manifestos. The two were also quite against that "earned citizenship" idea. During the hearing of that Bill (you may find a link in earlier posts), Tories suggested a transitional arrangement for HSMPs while LibDems raised the same concern for WP holders (which was not accepted). It looks like the changes are inevitable, but no-one can predict now what they will be in practice...

[mrlookforward]

All main parties supported the bill. The bill makes provisions for earned citizenship. But the devil is in detail. Its upto the Home Secretary as to when the bill or some of its provisions come into force, and what immigration rules, guidance or transitional arrangements would be. In theory, a government may not impose earned citizenship for as long as they dont want to.

[EFR3]

All main parties supported the bill. The bill makes provisions for earned citizenship. But the devil is in detail. Its upto the Home Secretary as to when the bill or some of its provisions come into force, and what immigration rules, guidance or transitional arrangements would be. In theory, a government may not impose earned citizenship for as long as they dont want to.

how they will contol the immigration which was biggest issue during the election debates i personly think the new comers students and economic migrant will suffer alot.

[mrlookforward]

Well, they have already announce that they will limit the number of economic migrants. There will be some routes which might even be axed tier 1 general for example.
But, we have to wait, till they make actual rules. It wont happen tomorrow, it would take months to put a new system in place.

[Pierrot95]

We are really in unknown territory now. The same Labour government has been able to introduce the HSMP system and to violate their commitments to HSMP holders a few years later. Imagine what a new government can do about rules initiated by their opponents. We can already forget those old transitional arrangements. However, the focus seems to be on controlling the number of new entrants.
Re. closing Tier 1 route, they don't have to. If they say that you need 125 points, it will be enough to divide the number of new tier 1 by 10.

I would expect the new government to amend the earned citizenship act to make it simpler and tougher. For instance, the whole idea of Probationary citizenship is just about extending the time required to qualify for ILR. The Tories will have the guts to say that you need to spend 8 years on work route before applying for ILR.

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[mrlookforward]

Yes, I agree. Earned Citizenship will create more paperwork, more rules, more court cases, more case law, more interpretations. This would happen when a person from any route moves to probationary citizenship and then from earned citizenship to full citizenship/residency.

[Sky_High]

For all WP holders immigration Welfare ltd must win the case. Its very important now.

[kps2007]

Hi Team,

Do you think that people already in the UK will be effected by the queen's statement today "Cap on non-EU economic migrants allowed to work in UK"? Also one more thing that is really confusing is and if some can clarify " (secondary legislation) " what does this mean?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8701376.stm

Thanks
KP

[mrlookforward]

Hi Team,

Do you think that people already in the UK will be effected by the queen's statement today "Cap on non-EU economic migrants allowed to work in UK"? Also one more thing that is really confusing is and if some can clarify " (secondary legislation) " what does this mean?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8701376.stm

Thanks
KP

No one knows who will be effected, and how can they know when no rules have been made.
I think seconday legisation is immigration rules, which are laid before commons for approval.

[f2k]

Hi Team,

Do you think that people already in the UK will be effected by the queen's statement today "Cap on non-EU economic migrants allowed to work in UK"? Also one more thing that is really confusing is and if some can clarify " (secondary legislation) " what does this mean?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8701376.stm

Thanks
KP

Personnally i think it would be unlikely tht the new cap will affect those with permission to stay in a particular category. So those extending say their Tier 1 visa will be ok. However those applying for new permits may be affected even those who are ie switching may very well be hit.

On secondary leglistation. This is when they change just the rules but not the actual bill. An example of this is when they changed the 4yr ILR to 5years. or even things like when they changed the dependents requirement for ILR to requiring a minimum of 2 years stay. When they change the points requirements or even introducing the tier system. I dont think it always has to go to vote before parliament as the Home Secretary has certain powers to make some changes

[geriatrix]

Also one more thing that is really confusing is and if some can clarify " (secondary legislation) " what does this mean?

'Primary legislation’ is the general term used to describe the main laws passed by the legislative bodies of the UK (e.g. - acts of parliament). Secondary legislation (also called ‘subordinate legislation') is made under authority contained in primary legislation. Subordinate legislation is a collective term for statutory rules, regulations, ordinances, by-laws and rules created by persons or bodies to whom Parliament has delegated some of its law-making powers.

There are two procedures for secondary legislation coming into effect:
1. Negative resolution' – the subordinate legislation has immediate effect, but is brought before Parliament and may be annulled if a resolution against it is passed within 40 days.
2. 'Affirmative Resolution' – the subordinate legislation must be affirmed by resolutions in each House of Parliament before it may come into effect.


regards

[adil2009]

Guys any news so far ?????

[mrlookforward]

For the latest news, please tune in to BBC News24

[kps2007]

What does that mean? Do you mean they have some new on immigration or is that a sarcastic comment?

[mrlookforward]

Well, you asked for "any news".
If you meant immigration news, then the news is that there is no news.

[tara55]

No news is a good news.

[adil2009]

No news is a good news.

Well the question was ,any news for work permit holder about July 2011 law.

[mrlookforward]

The news is, there is no news, about work permit holders or any other kind of permit holders.

You might like to visit a website for news from a certain govt department called ukba here http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/

[abhijack]

For all WP holders Immigration Wealfare is best option. WP holder case is different than Tier 2 and Tier 1. Lets see if they file the case next week, than all WP holders should support them (Moral + Money). I think that at this stage its not best option for WP holders to divert their attention to HSMP forum when Immigration Wealfare is almost ready to file the case.

I fully agree and support this advice! Please support "Immigrant Welfare" at http://www.immigrantwelfare.co.uk/ !!!

For all new T1 and T2 holders, HSMP forum is the best place if they decide to fight against these rules.

Actually, HSMP forum has expanded and now promotes a new organisation - "Association of Immigrants", see http://www.aimms.org. It may serve as a proper platform to fight for our human and civil rights, violated by retrospective changes as an example. However, the success of such an activity will depend much on the outcome of the WP case by Immigrant Welfare. We - WPs - need to win and form the precedent (as HSMPs did)!..

sorry this is off topic..
no intentions to hijack..

can sumone point me to a thread or forum which supports post november 06 HSMP guys?