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hi john,azeem777uk wrote:thanks john you are really very kind to me thanks
ok when i will reach there in uk then i will start exercising EU Treaty Rights there but the thing is is it possible that can we move altogether from Pakistan is there any way to get eea family permit for my husband while i am living in Pakistan
regards
ASH
Having noted that, if we now turn to Article 6, we see that there is the ability to reside in a country for up to 3 months without needing to exercise Treaty Rights as detailed in Article 7, such as employment, self-employment, etc..Union citizens who have resided legally for a continuous period of five years in the host Member State shall have the right of permanent residence there.
thank you for you reply,to be honest with you, he told me he was in london in juin 2005 but start work in the end of octobre 2005,John wrote:raoulll, if we look at the EU Directive .... click here .... and first look at Article 16.1, we see that it refers to :-
Having noted that, if we now turn to Article 6, we see that there is the ability to reside in a country for up to 3 months without needing to exercise Treaty Rights as detailed in Article 7, such as employment, self-employment, etc..Union citizens who have resided legally for a continuous period of five years in the host Member State shall have the right of permanent residence there.
So when you say "my freind is eea national who came to london 5 years ago,but start working after 3 months from his arrival to london", did he start work within 3 months, or did it take longer for him to find work and start his first employment in the UK?
let say he is willing to apply as soon as possible,what do you think is the best way to apply in this case:John wrote:I think the problem is that it could be argued that as regards "resided legally", it could be argued that after 3 months in the UK, and having not yet started work, he was not actually "legal" in the UK, from some time in September until he started work late October. Unless it is argued that he was self-sufficient for that period, in which case UKBA might be looking for evidence of comprehensive sickness insurance.
However I agree that submitting the application in say August is a good idea, because it is unlikely that the PR will be confirmed until November or later.
because he scare the law may change before he is eligible to apply for BC,that's why he try to save 3 or more months and also he hold certificate entry level 2 for avoid pass test life in ukJohn wrote:I think he should just apply in say August and let UKBA deal with the application. After all from late October at the latest he has PR status, and there is no reason for UKBA to decline to confirm the PR status.
Indeed because he is an EEA national, and not a family member, is there any particular reason for him to want to apply for confirmation of PR status? He does not need to submit a form EEA3, unless he chooses to do so.
Are you saying he has a completion certificate from a combined ESOL/Citizenship course? If yes, fine, but if he "merely" has an ESOL certificate that will not help him as regards Naturalisation.also he hold certificate entry level 2 for avoid pass test life in uk
Are you saying he has a completion certificate from a combined ESOL/Citizenship course? If yes, fine, but if he "merely" has an ESOL certificate that will not help him as regards Naturalisation.[/quote]also he hold certificate entry level 2 for avoid pass test life in uk
John wrote:raoulll, if we look at the EU Directive .... click here .... and first look at Article 16.1, we see that it refers to :-
Having noted that, if we now turn to Article 6, we see that there is the ability to reside in a country for up to 3 months without needing to exercise Treaty Rights as detailed in Article 7, such as employment, self-employment, etc..Union citizens who have resided legally for a continuous period of five years in the host Member State shall have the right of permanent residence there.
So when you say "my freind is eea national who came to london 5 years ago,but start working after 3 months from his arrival to london", did he start work within 3 months, or did it take longer for him to find work and start his first employment in the UK?
raoulll wrote:thank you for you reply,to be honest with you, he told me he was in london in juin 2005 but start work in the end of octobre 2005,John wrote:raoulll, if we look at the EU Directive .... click here .... and first look at Article 16.1, we see that it refers to :-
Having noted that, if we now turn to Article 6, we see that there is the ability to reside in a country for up to 3 months without needing to exercise Treaty Rights as detailed in Article 7, such as employment, self-employment, etc..Union citizens who have resided legally for a continuous period of five years in the host Member State shall have the right of permanent residence there.
So when you say "my freind is eea national who came to london 5 years ago,but start working after 3 months from his arrival to london", did he start work within 3 months, or did it take longer for him to find work and start his first employment in the UK?
i thought he can apply for his PR on aug 2010(considering he can be here for 3 month lawfully without exercing his treaty right)
thank you for your quick reply,i know that you don't need comp sick inss if you are employed,i want just cover the first 3 month of his resident who wasn't working that time,base on experience of other in this topic i discover that you can buy the comp inss at the end of you 5 years resident even you are working and apply as self suffiessent(you are elegible for both category) for cover the first 3 months(self suffissent)and in this case the ho will not ask about your com sick inss in that time.John wrote:Whether there is a need for Comprehensive Sickness Insurance will depend upon how the EEA citizen is exercising their Treaty Rights. It is not required if they are employed or self-employed.
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Location: London
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: PR granted
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Hi,
I just wanted to let you know that PR was granted and our passports came back in around 4 months since getting COA (COA itself took 2 weeks).
For the ones applying as self-sufficient who are wondering what happens for the period you didn't have Private Health Insurance, it seems to be fine to take one by the time you send your documents to HO. No need to back date insurance or things like that. Also, it seems to be no problem having an insurance that does not include emergencies. Just be aware that insurance needs to cover all family members. Even if non-EU citizen is working, because the sponsor (EU-citizen) is not working, both members will need insurance.
lira wrot
I hope the information is useful for other people in the same situation.
Kind regards.
raoulll wrote:thank you for your quick reply,i know that you don't need comp sick inss if you are employed,i want just cover the first 3 month of his resident who wasn't working that time,base on experience of other in this topic i discover that you can buy the comp inss at the end of you 5 years resident even you are working and apply as self suffiessent(you are elegible for both category) for cover the first 3 months(self suffissent)and in this case the ho will not ask about your com sick inss in that time.John wrote:Whether there is a need for Comprehensive Sickness Insurance will depend upon how the EEA citizen is exercising their Treaty Rights. It is not required if they are employed or self-employed.
[/list]Posts: 40
Location: London
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: PR granted
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Hi,
I just wanted to let you know that PR was granted and our passports came back in around 4 months since getting COA (COA itself took 2 weeks).
For the ones applying as self-sufficient who are wondering what happens for the period you didn't have Private Health Insurance, it seems to be fine to take one by the time you send your documents to HO. No need to back date insurance or things like that. Also, it seems to be no problem having an insurance that does not include emergencies. Just be aware that insurance needs to cover all family members. Even if non-EU citizen is working, because the sponsor (EU-citizen) is not working, both members will need insurance.
lira wrot
I hope the information is useful for other people in the same situation.
Kind regards.