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justcurious
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Immigration Bill 2010

Post by justcurious » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:50 am

Hi all,
Just have a quick question about immigration bill 2010.

(6) Where a long-term residence permission is granted foreign national who meets the standard eligibility requirements,following provisions shall apply to him or her for so long permission remains in force—

(a) he or she shall be entitled, subject to section 43(2)—

(i) to reside in the State, and

(ii) subject to subsection

(7), to the same rights of in or to or from the State as those to which citizens are entitled,

(b) he or she and his or her dependants lawfully resident the State shall be entitled to seek and enter employment, to engage in economic activity and to have access education and training in the State in the like manner the like extent in all respects as an Irish citizen,

(c) he or she and his or her dependents lawfully resident the State shall be entitled to receive, upon and subject the terms and conditions applicable to Irish citizens, same medical care and services and the same social welfare benefits as those to which Irish citizens are entitled.



Does that mean dependents of LTR can now work freely without work permit and engage in business activities without the permission of minister?
Is this bill passed yet? any info appreciated.
Thanks

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Post by xxxtieee » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:46 am

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Lo ... _Residency quotes:

" successful applicant will be granted Permission to Remain on a Stamp 4 which is valid for 5 years. Successful applications from those who apply as a dependant will be granted Permission to Remain on a Stamp 3. "

As usual - confusing info! As per above:

LTR for stamp 3 applicants will get 5 years LTR on stamp 3. Stamp 3 means no work without work permit or business without special permission.

Stamp 4 has the right to work and do business without any special permission.

It looks like LTR does not provide a standard stamp or list of rights.
-xxxtieee-

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Re: Immigration Bill 2010

Post by 9jeirean » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:55 am

justcurious wrote:Hi all,
Just have a quick question about immigration bill 2010.

(6) Where a long-term residence permission is granted foreign national who meets the standard eligibility requirements,following provisions shall apply to him or her for so long permission remains in force—

(a) he or she shall be entitled, subject to section 43(2)—

(i) to reside in the State, and

(ii) subject to subsection

(7), to the same rights of in or to or from the State as those to which citizens are entitled,

(b) he or she and his or her dependants lawfully resident the State shall be entitled to seek and enter employment, to engage in economic activity and to have access education and training in the State in the like manner the like extent in all respects as an Irish citizen,

(c) he or she and his or her dependents lawfully resident the State shall be entitled to receive, upon and subject the terms and conditions applicable to Irish citizens, same medical care and services and the same social welfare benefits as those to which Irish citizens are entitled.



Does that mean dependents of LTR can now work freely without work permit and engage in business activities without the permission of minister?
Is this bill passed yet? any info appreciated.
Thanks
The Immigration Bill to the best of my knowledge is not yet passed into law by the Dail Eireann. The current LTR scheme is a administrative scheme and it will be replaced by the provisions on the Immigration bill when it becomes enacted.

Hope this helps.
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Post by agniukas » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:54 pm

that can take years :) the new bill was due to be finalised and passed by the dail at the end of 2008... enough said...
yes, the new bill proposes that the dependants be given stamp 4 as well. but there will be social welfare checks, and garda checks, as well as checking english (or irish) language and integration in ireland. that's all proposed in the bill 2010.

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Post by neo725 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:33 pm

agniukas wrote:that can take years :) the new bill was due to be finalised and passed by the dail at the end of 2008... enough said...
yes, the new bill proposes that the dependants be given stamp 4 as well. but there will be social welfare checks, and garda checks, as well as checking english (or irish) language and integration in ireland. that's all proposed in the bill 2010.
and what does integration test mean?

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Post by agniukas » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:32 pm

and what does integration test mean?

noone knows that yet :)

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Post by jambalap » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:08 pm

Resurrecting the thread does any one know what's happening with the bill all I know is Allan shatter will be making changes to the bill but any more information any one know about the bill.
http://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.asp?Do ... scending=0

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Re: Immigration Bill 2010

Post by Baumbass » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:33 pm

justcurious wrote:Hi all,
Just have a quick question about immigration bill 2010.

(6) Where a long-term residence permission is granted foreign national who meets the standard eligibility requirements,following provisions shall apply to him or her for so long permission remains in force—

(a) he or she shall be entitled, subject to section 43(2)—

(i) to reside in the State, and

(ii) subject to subsection

(7), to the same rights of in or to or from the State as those to which citizens are entitled,

(b) he or she and his or her dependants lawfully resident the State shall be entitled to seek and enter employment, to engage in economic activity and to have access education and training in the State in the like manner the like extent in all respects as an Irish citizen,

(c) he or she and his or her dependents lawfully resident the State shall be entitled to receive, upon and subject the terms and conditions applicable to Irish citizens, same medical care and services and the same social welfare benefits as those to which Irish citizens are entitled.



Does that mean dependents of LTR can now work freely without work permit and engage in business activities without the permission of minister?
Is this bill passed yet? any info appreciated.
Thanks
Then what will happened to any immigrant covered by article 5 of the TFEU, Which enable a person that have resided in any European country legally for a period not exceeding 5 years to be treated like Irish Citizen ?
When you quote selfish-immigration law drafted by previous government, don't forget that, the European union has matched such one sided law, so there you go, any other argument to that effect ? :lol:

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