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ca.funke wrote:The OP has to determine if he is a "UK-Visa national", or a "Direct Airside Transit Visa" (DATV) national.
Click >>here<< to see a list.
If the OP is "only" a "visa-national" he can probably transit in London WITHOUT visa.
If the OP is a DATV-national, he will need a transit visa.
It depends only on nationality, the 4EUFam-card is worthless when travelling alone.
If the OP would be travelling with the spouse, he would be entitled to transit (and enter) the UK without visa, irrespective of nationality. (>>see here<<)
Not valid for visa exemption unless accompanying or joining your EU national family member. Perhaps it was assumed that you were joining yours.vara1 wrote:Are you guys sure for changing flight in london the stamp4 eu card is not valid.
I guess the transit-rules inside the EU are determined by each country for themselves?vara1 wrote:I always travel via paris with stamp 4 eu fam alone with out my spouse to my country. Dublin to paris to India. They just see my Eu card and dont ask any quetions.
So yes, you can transit without visa.consulfrance-washington.org wrote:Do I need an airport transit visa ?see their website
If you hold one of the following documents, you DO NOT NEED an airport transit visa, whatever your nationality:
(...)(...)
- residency permit in one of the countries of the European Union...
Rgds, Christianukvisas.gov.uk wrote:
- You are - a national of India
- Purpose of your visit - Transit
- Your status - Normally and legally living in Ireland
- YES - You will normally need a visa to pass through the United Kingdom in transit.
- see their website
It is not perhaps assumed that i am joining family member. I showed them ticket and they saw my destination country. they did not asked for any transit. you might be wrong ben. I agree with you if i am going to visit uk alone and the stamp 4 eu fam card is useless. But for changing the flight in the airport stamp4 eu fam card be ok because my friends travelled with that stamp 4 eu fam card via london alone no one questioned them or created any hassle. they dont have any uk visa. Better update yourself benBen wrote:Not valid for visa exemption unless accompanying or joining your EU national family member. Perhaps it was assumed that you were joining yours.vara1 wrote:Are you guys sure for changing flight in london the stamp4 eu card is not valid.
In that case vara1, you must be right.vara1 wrote:It is not perhaps assumed that i am joining family member. I showed them ticket and they saw my destination country. they did not asked for any transit. you might be wrong ben. I agree with you if i am going to visit uk alone and the stamp 4 eu fam card is useless. But for changing the flight in the airport stamp4 eu fam card be ok because my friends travelled with that stamp 4 eu fam card via london alone no one questioned them or created any hassle. they dont have any uk visa. Better update yourself benBen wrote:Not valid for visa exemption unless accompanying or joining your EU national family member. Perhaps it was assumed that you were joining yours.vara1 wrote:Are you guys sure for changing flight in london the stamp4 eu card is not valid.
Indeed, a Member State is free to apply visa exemption to the holder of a Residence Card who is not travelling in conformity with Directive 2004/38/EC, if the Member State so wishes.ca.funke wrote:I guess the transit-rules inside the EU are determined by each country for themselves?vara1 wrote:I always travel via paris with stamp 4 eu fam alone with out my spouse to my country. Dublin to paris to India. They just see my Eu card and dont ask any quetions.
Anyway, France sais that following:
consulfrance-washington.org wrote:Do I need an airport transit visa ?
If you hold one of the following documents, you DO NOT NEED an airport transit visa, whatever your nationality:
(...)(...)
- residency permit in one of the countries of the European Union...
Maybe they were just lucky... http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ukvqr?redi ... on=Irelandvara1 wrote:But for changing the flight in the airport stamp4 eu fam card be ok because my friends travelled with that stamp 4 eu fam card via london alone no one questioned them or created any hassle. they dont have any uk visa. Better update yourself ben
Hi Ben,Ben wrote:Importantly however, Directive 2004/38/EC does not require them to.
A valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA state pursuant to council regulation (EC) No. 1030/2002 is not a "Residence card of a family member of a Union citizen", which is what Stamp 4 EUFam is.daddy wrote:From the reply and link for uk visa that Ck funke gave to this post, I found out that holder of resident card issued by any eu member state would transit via uk without a transit visa, pls read below remarking the park that I wrote in capital letter, I dont mean to shout pls.
Passengers exempt from the DATV requirement
Holders of certain documents are, regardless of nationality, exempt from the requirement to hold a Direct Airside Transit Visa when transiting the UK.
A transit passenger is not required to hold a transit visa if he holds, or a person with whom he arrives in the United Kingdom holds on his behalf:
a valid visa for entry to Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America and a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom as part of a journey from another country or territory to the country for which the visa is held;
a valid visa for entry to Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America and a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom as part of a journey from the country for which the visa is held to another country or territory;
a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom as part of a journey from Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America to another country or territory, provided that the transit passenger does not seek to transit the United Kingdom on a date more than six months from the date on which they last entered Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America with a valid visa for entry to that country;
a valid USA I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued on or after 21st April 1998;
a valid Canadian Permanent Resident Card issued on or after 28th June 2002;
a valid common format Category D visa for entry to an EEA State;
A VALID COMMON FORMAT RESIDENCE PERMIT ISSUED BY AN EEA STATE PURSUANT TO COUNCIL REGULATION (EC) No. 1030/2002;
a diplomatic or service passport issued by the People’s Republic of China; or
a diplomatic or official passport issued by India; or
a diplomatic or official passport issued by Vietnam.
s.
Council Regulation (EC) No 1030/2002 of 13 June 2002 laying down a uniform format for residence permits for third-country nationals wrote:This Regulation does not apply to the following third-country nationals:
* the family members of EU citizens who exercise their right to free movement;
Ben in the above link which you have pasted no where mention that a valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA State pursuant to Council Regulation (EC) No. 1030/2002 is not a stamp4 eufam.Ben wrote:A valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA state pursuant to council regulation (EC) No. 1030/2002 is not a "Residence card of a family member of a Union citizen", which is what Stamp 4 EUFam is.daddy wrote:From the reply and link for uk visa that Ck funke gave to this post, I found out that holder of resident card issued by any eu member state would transit via uk without a transit visa, pls read below remarking the park that I wrote in capital letter, I dont mean to shout pls.
Passengers exempt from the DATV requirement
Holders of certain documents are, regardless of nationality, exempt from the requirement to hold a Direct Airside Transit Visa when transiting the UK.
A transit passenger is not required to hold a transit visa if he holds, or a person with whom he arrives in the United Kingdom holds on his behalf:
a valid visa for entry to Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America and a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom as part of a journey from another country or territory to the country for which the visa is held;
a valid visa for entry to Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America and a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom as part of a journey from the country for which the visa is held to another country or territory;
a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom as part of a journey from Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America to another country or territory, provided that the transit passenger does not seek to transit the United Kingdom on a date more than six months from the date on which they last entered Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the United States of America with a valid visa for entry to that country;
a valid USA I-551 Permanent Resident Card issued on or after 21st April 1998;
a valid Canadian Permanent Resident Card issued on or after 28th June 2002;
a valid common format Category D visa for entry to an EEA State;
A VALID COMMON FORMAT RESIDENCE PERMIT ISSUED BY AN EEA STATE PURSUANT TO COUNCIL REGULATION (EC) No. 1030/2002;
a diplomatic or service passport issued by the People’s Republic of China; or
a diplomatic or official passport issued by India; or
a diplomatic or official passport issued by Vietnam.
s.
Council Regulation (EC) No 1030/2002 of 13 June 2002 laying down a uniform format for residence permits for third-country nationals wrote:This Regulation does not apply to the following third-country nationals:
* the family members of EU citizens who exercise their right to free movement;
You mean apart from that which you have quoted?vara1 wrote:Ben in the above link which you have pasted no where mention that a valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA State pursuant to Council Regulation (EC) No. 1030/2002 is not a stamp4 eufam.
yeahBen wrote:You mean apart from that which you have quoted?vara1 wrote:Ben in the above link which you have pasted no where mention that a valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA State pursuant to Council Regulation (EC) No. 1030/2002 is not a stamp4 eufam.
Question for you. What is Stamp 4 EUFam?vara1 wrote:yeahBen wrote:You mean apart from that which you have quoted?vara1 wrote:Ben in the above link which you have pasted no where mention that a valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA State pursuant to Council Regulation (EC) No. 1030/2002 is not a stamp4 eufam.
this link.
Council Regulation (EC) No 1030/2002 of 13 June 2002 laying down a uniform format for residence permits for third-country nationals.
I just wonder whether you are asking me knowingly or unknowingly.Ben wrote:Question for you. What is Stamp 4 EUFam?vara1 wrote:yeahBen wrote:You mean apart from that which you have quoted?vara1 wrote:Ben in the above link which you have pasted no where mention that a valid common format residence permit issued by an EEA State pursuant to Council Regulation (EC) No. 1030/2002 is not a stamp4 eufam.
this link.
Council Regulation (EC) No 1030/2002 of 13 June 2002 laying down a uniform format for residence permits for third-country nationals.
No. Stamp 4 EUFam is not a "visa type" of any description, nor is it's issuance dependant on the marital status of the applicant. It is the "Residence card of a family member of a Union citizen" described in § 10 of Directive 2004/38/EC and issued to a non-EEA national family member of an EEA national who has the right of residence in Ireland in accordance with the Directive.vara1 wrote:I just wonder whether you are asking me knowingly or unknowingly.Ben wrote:Question for you. What is Stamp 4 EUFam?vara1 wrote:yeahBen wrote:
You mean apart from that which you have quoted?
this link.
Council Regulation (EC) No 1030/2002 of 13 June 2002 laying down a uniform format for residence permits for third-country nationals.
well still answering your question
It is the visa type given to the non EU countries members who are married to any EU national.
Hope it is clear.
Hi vara1,vara1 wrote:Well in order to remove the confusion I kept an email in www.europa.eu about this transit issue. Probably they should give clear information. they kept an automated message stating that they should get back to me 3 working days.