maganzo wrote:Monifé wrote:I totally agree with the Government and GNIB at cracking down on Sham Marriages BUT not at the expense of genuine couples!
They need to form genuine plans and tactics and not just discriminate against a few nationalities. Ok so the majority of the applications are from Pakistani, Indian and Nigerian. But that could also be because there is a hell of alot more of those nationalities living in Ireland than others and their home countries are very populous aswell.
My fiancé is Nigerian and I know there are A LOT of dodgy, nigerian scammers out there, as there is other nationalities, but that DOES NOT mean that all of them are like that![/b]
August 2010
Five foreign nationals were arrested in Tilbury on 25 August following a UK Border Agency operation at a church where a suspected sham marriage was due to take place.
Officers from a specialist immigration crime team stopped the wedding at St John's Church, Dock Road, Tilbury as it was about to start at 12:00.
The Nigerian groom and Dutch bride were put in handcuffs at the altar, while two witnesses - a Nigerian man and woman - were also arrested inside the church.
Another Nigerian man, believed to be the wedding 'fixer', tried to escape by scaling a 6ft fence but was apprehended by officers from Essex Police.
living in ireland? in what sense? temporary permission to stay in ireland, on the basis of been able to prove that you have been persecuted / suffered serious harm in the home country and unable to return to same and permsision to study, attend and qualify for various courses ( even if they are mcieky mouse 7-10 years language course , i am not including genuine studies here by the way) hardly really includes "living" or residing. these forms of residency were never intended to be for a way of simply making a new life or econonic reasons. thats what work permits are for (let me make it crystal clear, i have NO problem with people of different nationalities etc coming to ireland, but i do have a problem with people who fraudelently take advantage of liberal (and judge made and unelected by the people judge made) decisions
They don't want to stop marriage of conveniences? have you read the most recent immigration bill?
The issue about nationalities is the most regarded thing. These are the actual nationalites that are more prone to deportation, in normal situations. get bloody real., look at the stats in relation to asylum and student visas.
nigerians do not need to apply for asylum in the first place. spend all day to find prove of other wise in light of understanding what persecution and inability to been able to find minium and adequate protection means
Tell me this, and all of ye who are from central europe, as oppose to ireland and uk,what are the chances, and lets pretend (and assume to are an eu citizen), its your position, you have to go back home, permanently, for whatever reason be it work or family, strictly personal reasons, will the non eu spouse definitely follow? Are you really really sure of that? or are they more concerned with getting Irish citizenship thus Eu? after all they married for love and where they live should come second
Its got nothing to do with "nationalities". Its far too convenient, considering the amount of nationalities here, that its the same couple of different countries involved. Correct me if i am wrong, but what are the historical social,language relgious etc links within 6 months (and within a period of a deportation order or sudden expiry of student visa) between former russian communist countries far away from the former british empire state of india? what happened was it lativan - indian singles night in coper face jacks? how can it be the same in england? (i do not mean to offend genuines) look at teh facts, these are the countries involved. its way too convenient, and it sound like someone is protesting too much. whats with the rush of getting married?
considering, polish and nigerians (just a simple example, and not intended to generalise, honestly) are genuinely relgious (and many of them Christian) and within reason family orienated, countries, how come they get married in the presence little or no families?, or how come, they don't, considering it being the biggest day of their lives, not get married in their respective countries, considering they would, regardless of where they are from, and considering, its not that expensive to travel within europe, get on with the marriage cermony there? why the rush? why the instances of a civil, considering, some may actually be of the same religion, insist on the civil marriage? (i ask that question with the knowledge and lack of ignorance to different beliefs, culture etc)
