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. The response may still come from HO or Ms May:Downing Street is working in partnership with the non-partisan mySociety to provide a service to allow citizens, charities and campaign groups to set up petitions that are hosted on the Downing Street website, enabling anyone to address and deliver a petition directly to the Prime Minister
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mtuckersa wrote:you CANT write this
'but we believe the existing Tier1 extension criteria will be efficient in dealing with this minority'
as the existing Tier 1 extension criteria does NOT deal with this minority, it allows them to extend doing multiple jobs etc.
You either take it out or propose a solution to filter this minority out.
For example suggest that they adjust the extension criteria to filter out the minority who abused the system.
You can NOT discuss this sort of detail with them in your petition. But maybe suggest that you have come up with your own extension criteria and you are willing to talk to UKBA about it if they are interested. By consultation
I am sure they will be willing to know what the majority Tier 1 holders would like to see on the extension criteria. If they can get agreement with the majority Tier 1 holders on extension criteria then you are already 80% of the way there.
If you want to win this YOU need to propose changes to Tier 1 extension criteria NOW, dont wait for them to make changes and put it out there. Then you will be on the back foot.
I stress you put together a list of changes to criteria and send it to UKBA. They will be quite impressed if you do such a thing. Let the Tier 1 holders with UKBA define the rules for extensions.
sorry if I am repeating myself but we must address this 30% of failures because they are being advertised to the UK public as the key reason for tanking Tier 1....IF WE ADDRESS THEM IN OUR PETITION, then hopefully they won't base the reply focussing on the 30% failed Tier 1 holders.....cuberoot wrote:I agree with push and MJNair. I think we should go with the blue version and change it to be addressed to the PM. The blue version is a more professional petition and has a clear and formal style.
But are you trying to get the decision on Tier-1 (general) reversed? I thought the core concern here was to ensure that the changes are not effected so as to impact extension and settlement criteria for the existing Tier-1(general) VISA holders.MICKS wrote:sorry if I am repeating myself but we must address this 30% of failures because they are being advertised to the UK public as the key reason for tanking Tier 1....IF WE ADDRESS THEM IN OUR PETITION, then hopefully they won't base the reply focussing on the 30% failed Tier 1 holders.....cuberoot wrote:I agree with push and MJNair. I think we should go with the blue version and change it to be addressed to the PM. The blue version is a more professional petition and has a clear and formal style.
If we do that, I think the blue version might just do the trick......
You dont tell them how to cook, but instead suggest to them that if they wish to consult you regarding extension criteria you are willing. So in each words you leave the ball in their court so they can decide whether or not they want cooking lessons.MICKS wrote:mtuckersa wrote:you CANT write this
'but we believe the existing Tier1 extension criteria will be efficient in dealing with this minority'
as the existing Tier 1 extension criteria does NOT deal with this minority, it allows them to extend doing multiple jobs etc.
You either take it out or propose a solution to filter this minority out.
For example suggest that they adjust the extension criteria to filter out the minority who abused the system.
You can NOT discuss this sort of detail with them in your petition. But maybe suggest that you have come up with your own extension criteria and you are willing to talk to UKBA about it if they are interested. By consultation
I am sure they will be willing to know what the majority Tier 1 holders would like to see on the extension criteria. If they can get agreement with the majority Tier 1 holders on extension criteria then you are already 80% of the way there.
If you want to win this YOU need to propose changes to Tier 1 extension criteria NOW, dont wait for them to make changes and put it out there. Then you will be on the back foot.
I stress you put together a list of changes to criteria and send it to UKBA. They will be quite impressed if you do such a thing. Let the Tier 1 holders with UKBA define the rules for extensions.
I once tried to preach my mother how to cook....trust me it wasn't a good experience... Don't think its a good idea to go to them with a criteria as we would come across as doing their jobs ......it would certainly offend the current policy makers who by the way are getting serious ££££ to come up with ways of reducing net migration....
I agree with you on your point regarding 'but we believe the existing Tier1 extension criteria will be efficient in dealing with this minority'. But we must address this minority as this 30% of failures are being advertised to the UK public as the key reason for tanking Tier 1....We need to say something that points out that a vast majority of us that are here are legit and have been successful as per the definition of HO.
The best thing we can recommend to them is that the extension rules the same, and have another extension type check at settlement. This way they would have verified our credibility 3 times, Inital application, Extension and Settlement.....Anything more will be draconian....
much better, less emotionally charged and sounds more professionalcuberoot wrote:mtuckersa, what do you think of the blue version? I think you will find its a much better petition. We could add a line at the end suggesting we are open to consultation as well?
mtuckersa wrote:much better, less emotionally charged and sounds more professionalcuberoot wrote:mtuckersa, what do you think of the blue version? I think you will find its a much better petition. We could add a line at the end suggesting we are open to consultation as well?
yes adding a line at end saying we are open to consultation would be a good idea.
raxs1983 wrote:I am sorry but they ain't gonna give you a chance to sit with them and consult, chances are once in a blue moon
Shorter version of petition is agreeable, but it should not miss out important message. Its not only the question of professionalism, sentiments are also involved who have kids moulded in this culture and environment.
mtuckersa wrote:much better, less emotionally charged and sounds more professionalcuberoot wrote:mtuckersa, what do you think of the blue version? I think you will find its a much better petition. We could add a line at the end suggesting we are open to consultation as well?
yes adding a line at end saying we are open to consultation would be a good idea.
I am also a native english speaker and it seems fine to me.cuberoot wrote:I am a native English speaker. English is my first language and I studied it in Primary and Secondary school.
I am by no means an expert though, I never studied it at University and I was only average at school.
Please feel free to get the opinion of other native English speakers. I wont be offended if we need to change things.
Drafted petition still sound emotional and use complex language. In my opinion, this petiotion must refer to earlier petiotion on same topic and remind government about its public stand on Tier 1 (G), who are in this country.viki83 wrote:Dnt wory abt numbers i hav 4 guys too who will hav more frnds too