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can visa be refused on working more hours?

Post by ahmedkhan » Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:26 am

One of my friend's colleague psw visa was refused because home office said he worked more than 20 hours in last whole year(when he was on student visa) they even mentioned number of hours he worked more and on these basis they refused visa but they gave right of appeal please tell what to do and please tell is anything happened like this in your case
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Post by geriatrix » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:17 am

Why not, when the applicant has been in breach of immigration rules.


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Post by ahmedkhan » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:55 pm

Thanks for reply
but please someone tell me what to do in this case.

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Post by geriatrix » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:37 am

Nothing, because there is no ground for appeal. What possible explanation can the person give for working more hours than legally permitted to?


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Post by potterbond007 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:42 am

nothing can be done..

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Post by arsenal49 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:19 pm

you can only appeal if you think they made a wrong decision... if you agree and they are giving you facts about his over time than on what basis can you appeal!!!???

appeal rights are given to all applicants who are refused under cerain paragraph. it doesnt mean anything if you, an applicant, agrees with their reasoning.

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Post by NiceCareing » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:30 pm

Hey

How did they find out that he worked more hours..!!! did he mentioned NI number ??

I never seen any where in forms UKBA asked about ur work??

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i wonder

Post by bussi » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:52 am

how did they find out the workin hours?

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Post by potterbond007 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:58 am

NI number

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Post by ahmedkhan » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:51 pm

Yes he also provided NI number.
still we are thinking what to do :(

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Post by ash786 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:47 pm

ahmedkhan wrote:Yes he also provided NI number.
still we are thinking what to do :(
1. I do not think that u hav much choice as if you appeal then HO will provide the evidence that u friend have worked illegally in the UK.
2. The appeal will be refused without any doubts and the applicant will have trouble getting a UK visa for a long time.
3. Do not think that HO will be easy on this case.

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Post by FRESH001 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:21 pm

He was just unfortunate, I have seen alot of people that work full time while on student visa and when they applied for the post study, they filled the N.I space and their passport got stamped with 2yrs visa. He was definitely unfortunate and may be there is some other things he did not disclose because a caseworker most of the time treats what they've got on thier table without investigating into ur privacy!!

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Re: can visa be refused on working more hours?

Post by hham12 » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:51 am

ahmedkhan wrote:One of my friend's colleague psw visa was refused because home office said he worked more than 20 hours in last whole year(when he was on student visa) they even mentioned number of hours he worked more and on these basis they refused visa but they gave right of appeal please tell what to do and please tell is anything happened like this in your case
Thanks
You can work full time on the student visa in vocation or off-term period. If ur friend has worked more than 20 hrs in term time HO is right to refuse his visa as he was in breach of the immgration rules. :wink:

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Post by ahmedkhan » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:24 am

hey everyone just to let you know
WE WON THE APPEAL
thanks for your help
thanks again

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Post by potterbond007 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:33 am

well then...... count ur friend as one of the luckiest people around.. very very lucky.. I wonder what ur arguments where and what the judge said in his decision.. could u please let us know..

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Post by am_waqas » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:28 pm

ahmedkhan wrote:hey everyone just to let you know
WE WON THE APPEAL
thanks for your help
thanks again
Hi Ahmed, please share your experiance pleasesssss

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Post by Tier 4 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:12 am

Tier 4 wrote:
ahmedkhan wrote:hey everyone just to let you know
WE WON THE APPEAL
thanks for your help
thanks again
I think you made up this whole story, nice try dude :lol:
Or tell us the arguments and verdict of the Judge. How did he manage to reach on this conclusion?
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Post by landever » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:39 pm

What possible grounds can be given in this situation, when you have worker more hours in your term times...

your replies are highly appriciated

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Post by wf » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:21 pm

potterbond007 wrote:NI number
1) UKBA do not cross check the NI number with HMRC (unless policy has changed quite recently)
2) Even if they did, how can they use it to prove how many hours somebody worked? HMRC knows how much the person was paid and how much tax was deducted, not how many hours they worked.

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Post by mahdyhasan » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:27 pm

wf wrote:
potterbond007 wrote:NI number
1) UKBA do not cross check the NI number with HMRC (unless policy has changed quite recently)
2) Even if they did, how can they use it to prove how many hours somebody worked? HMRC knows how much the person was paid and how much tax was deducted, not how many hours they worked.

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Post by mulderpf » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:04 am

wf wrote:
potterbond007 wrote:NI number
1) UKBA do not cross check the NI number with HMRC (unless policy has changed quite recently)
2) Even if they did, how can they use it to prove how many hours somebody worked? HMRC knows how much the person was paid and how much tax was deducted, not how many hours they worked.
Check who made NI / tax contributions using that NI# and phone up the companies who paid over the tax.

Here is some info regarding HMRC & Home Office partnership agreement.

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Post by arsenal49 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:37 pm

mahdyhasan wrote:
wf wrote:
potterbond007 wrote:NI number
1) UKBA do not cross check the NI number with HMRC (unless policy has changed quite recently)
2) Even if they did, how can they use it to prove how many hours somebody worked? HMRC knows how much the person was paid and how much tax was deducted, not how many hours they worked.

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wishful thinking....


they would know student A who worked 20 hours on average earning 6,000 odd pounds a year and another student B who earned 15000 pounds. eyebrows WILL be raised...... and why do you think every employer ask you for NI number!!!!!

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