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aak2010
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Renting in the UK

Post by aak2010 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:05 am

I am new to this forum, I have a question regarding renting a house in the UK before going there. We are moving to England in January, how can we rent a house there before we move because most letting agencies require UK professional references and we don't have any because we're moving from Canada.
It seems like it's catch 21, but the British embassy requires us to have a rented house before we move to the UK, any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks much.

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Post by kenfrapin » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:56 pm

I am quite certain of the option of providing international references to Letting Agents for verification purposes. A few people have used this route though I cannot personally verify this.

On many forms I have filled while changing houses/flats, there is a mandatory question for previous 3yrs address and it's not an issue if you were living in the UK or elsewhere the past 3 years. It may take them longer to verify but it should be allowed.

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KP

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Re: Renting in the UK

Post by thelionking » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:51 pm

aak2010 wrote:I am new to this forum, I have a question regarding renting a house in the UK before going there. We are moving to England in January, how can we rent a house there before we move because most letting agencies require UK professional references and we don't have any because we're moving from Canada.
It seems like it's catch 21, but the British embassy requires us to have a rented house before we move to the UK, any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks much.
Checkout www.rightmove.co.uk it's the best site out there, u can search on map view, see listings from all agents, see schools near by on map etc etc. They have an iPad and idiot-phone application as well, which is quite user friendly ...

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Post by avjones » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:42 pm

it depends where in the UK - primelocation.com is better for London than rightmove is.
I am not, and cannot, offer legal advice to particular people. I can only discuss general areas of immigration law.

People should always consider obtaining professional advice about their own particular circumstances.

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Post by ChilliS » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:41 am

Hi there, I also have a question regarding moving to the UK and renting a house. Is it common to have a Spam? I'm from germany, and here it's common to move with your Spam and bring it to a new house, many renetdt flats and houses don't have build-in Spam. So how about the UK?

Thx for your help :)

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Post by wunder » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:39 pm

It is very uncommon here - I don't think I've ever seen rental accommodation without fitted out Spam :shock:

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Post by kenfrapin » Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:37 pm

As Wunder said, Spam are always setup and ready to use here.
Now, if we are not getting your point clearly or you are not explaining well, I am leaning towards you actually asking if they provide a 'furnished' Spam with the usual stuff included like microwave, Spam, washer/dryer, dish washer, kettle, toaster etc

So if this is what your question REALLY asked then it depends. Some rented places only provide 'White Goods' which include fridge/freezer, washing machine and cooking hob. This is usually common for unfurnished places. If they rent it as furnished then you can expect few more items like kettle, toaster, microwave, crockery etc but it just depends on what they decide to provide you with

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Re: Renting in the UK

Post by aliq09 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:02 pm

aak2010 wrote:I am new to this forum, I have a question regarding renting a house in the UK before going there. We are moving to England in January, how can we rent a house there before we move because most letting agencies require UK professional references and we don't have any because we're moving from Canada.
It seems like it's catch 21, but the British embassy requires us to have a rented house before we move to the UK, any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks much.

Hi ,

Here are things to do

1) You will not get any property until and unless they will see you along with your passports.

2) You have to come here and in the meanwhile ask some arrangements like quotes ? from letting people . it will show you are in progress and if possible and you can " agree on the rent" while narrating a letter yes we are agreed on the rent .

3) Once , you will come here you will be asked for reference so you will give canada reference and it will take 1 month for them to verify ... A better way is to ask your friend here to be your reference and it will speed up the whole procedure .

4) Ope your bank account right from canada as they require you to give them a bank .

5) Please be ready to deposit some advance as you are new here and don't have any credit history so please bring some extra hard cash with you ...

6) Rent will go from 600 to 1100 pounds and depends on where you are coming to live

7) some letting will ask you to pay 3 months advance so thats why i mention give yourself a extra cash " cover"

If you need any thing further please message me :))

Good luck!
Thanks

Ali

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Re: Renting in the UK

Post by kenfrapin » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:36 am

Quite incorrect advice on some of the below Ali, so let me explain why
aliq09 wrote:
1) You will not get any property until and unless they will see you along with your passports.

5) Please be ready to deposit some advance as you are new here and don't have any credit history so please bring some extra hard cash with you ...

7) some letting will ask you to pay 3 months advance so thats why i mention give yourself a extra cash " cover"
1 - They just need a solid ID proof so for EU citizens it can be other than passports. If you hjave to show legality of your stay in the UK then the visa page of your passport is required.

5 - For rentals, the standard LAW is 1.5 months rental advance - this is irrespective of you being a local resident or moving from Russia or Alaska or where ever. Many people move to the UK without credit history and easily get flats for rent :-)

7 - Dont ever go with such agents as you are being cheated. Having a credit history or not is irrelevant. Agencies must carry out their checks and even check references outside the UK. Even if you provide details of references in Canada, they will only email a standard questionnaire to your reference so it wont make any difference where they are located.
Deposits are now kept in deposit schemes and not with the landlord or agent themselves. The deposit will be controlled by a central body to avoid any misuse of your deposit. Once both sides agree on the final deductions, the deposit will be released. So there is no way the agent can take 3 months deposit and get away with it - a max of 1.5 months rent only must be taken as deposit

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KP

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Post by Plum70 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:42 pm

I feel the need to contribute to this post from a slightly different angle - private rentals.

For anyone who has been scathed by estate agents and would rather go private - it's a good idea only if you find a responsible private landlord. Unfortunately there seem to be as many scams as there are genuine offers these days; so be very careful!

Here's my advice based on very recent experience -

Be wary of comms that read:

Property to rent (rent significantly lower than the average asking market value for type of property and area) all bills inclusive (super fast internet, central heating, water, BT, car parking and garden).

"Looking for a someone who will move into my proprty asap. I am very busy, do not live locally, am renting on behalf of family/friend who has moved elsewhere and so can only arrange a viewing if you are cerain you want the property".

"Need someone who can demonstrate that they are serious by showing funds to cover one month's rent and deposit". They may suggest using western union to transfer funds to your family or friend (as a means of showing available funds). They will then ask that you send them a copy of the funds transfer receipt as proof (before a property viewing and tenancy sign up) only to use the code on it to transfer your money to their account and vanish!

As has been said a gazillion times: "If it sounds too good to be true..." The age old trick of scammers is to gain your trust, make you believe that they are responsible as well as make you unconsciously feel pressured into making a decision and guilty if you voice any doubts or tarry in closing the deal.

Tips:

If you are flat hunting on social networking sites, unregulated sites like gumtree etc. then make sure you know who you are dealing with. Ask for their full name and address, a fixed landline number, their occupation and, if possible place of work. Do not hand over any money or sensitive info (except your name and tel. no if needed) until you have viewed the flat (preferrably twice - day and night time- with someone accompanying you), seen proof of ownership (mortgage letters, statements etc), checked with land registry that it is legit etc. Also make sure you ask what scheme your deposit will be held in as required by law to ensure you recover it at end of tenancy.

Tenancy agreement: Always ask for reasonable time to read through and ask questions/consult specialist legal advisors where unsure. It must include details of which persons are going into the agreement (full names and addresses), the full property address, monthly rent amount (how it will be paid: by direct debit, cheque, standing order) and what bills are inclusive, deposit amount, how long the tenancy is secure for before notice can be given by either party, rent can be reviewed etc. Also ensure that a full inventory of what is in the proprty and state of the property is taken in your presence and agreed on. This will reduce the likelihood of any disputes at tenancy end. Also ensure that you get a proper receipt for any monies you hand over at start of tenancy.

No system is full proof (whether via an agent or private owner) and I have been exremely lucky to find genuine private landlords throughout my stay in London. However, this seems to be on the decline as more unscrupulous and, dare I say, quite cleverly put together scams pervade the internet. So if you are sceptical about an offer then: ask questions; run the scenario by family or close friends; do some research/investigation online by googling the advert, the person's details, property address (to see whether it was recently sold/bought), if it is registered via the council/land registry; if close by, visit the area and even speak with neighbours to get some background info. Sometimes scammers use properties that they have broken into or properties that they are simply watching for a friend or family member who is temporarily away.

Bottom line: Keep your fist well clenched unless you are satisfied with the enquiries you've made and the answers (and proof) you've received from a prospective landlord/lady.

Hope this helps in some way. Oh, and I will be happy to receive references of tried and tested reputable estate agents in London. I have never used one so am highly sceptical of their business practices.

Thanks

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