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1. £153nonothing wrote:guys, i'm trying to work out an additional cost estimate of the 4-5 changes. i can't get on the HO's cretaceous website. so can you guys provide me some figures:
1. how much does a the employer pay for a WP extension?
2. how much does a WP holders pay for a FLR? normally who pay for this fee, employers or the WP holders? 50-50 of all cases?
3. how much does an HSMP holder pay for a one-year extension?
4. how much do a Ancestry Visa holder pay for a one-year extension?
are those all the addition costs of the 4-5 changes? if not, any other costs?
cheers.
I think what they care about is we continue to contribute tax and NI, do not apply for benefits... the business plan doesn;t need to be the next day you get ILR but some time in the near future.rooi_ding wrote:I was Planning to start an Architecture buisness with a fellow EU architect, we have all the buisness plans and our first client. I was just waiting untill May to get ILR. but I think this could be an issue if we start saying we want to start buisnesses when we are supposed to be still employed once we have ILR. Any thougts how we overcome this.............
There is no legal right for a visa (and neither the visas in question are issued by the UK authorities), so I believe the HO can quite easily wash their hands of this. On the other hand, we can still claim that many highly qualified workers these days have to travel a lot around the world for business reasons. And it is a well-known fact that even Schengen visas are not issued if one has less than 3 months on their temporary permit. So, by making us to renew our WPs twice within 15 months, the HO ensures that for six months out of those fifteen we won't be able to travel anywhere other than our home countries. That is, 40 (!) per cent of this time we won't be able to go to research conferences and business meetings, visit clients abroad and exchange experience at international workshops. For many posts, including, but not limited to, research and IT, such restrictions can make working conditions very difficult.nonothing wrote:The reason why is because this type of restriction is a real and had direct effect on people’s lives and it is something that the Home office cannot easily argue against. If we also emphasise this effect, then we have one more angle with which to pressure the government, and this one hits a persons freedom of mobility.
i posted as the updates from CL's team. i agree with a11 though.a11 wrote:There is no legal right for a visa (and neither the visas in question are issued by the UK authorities), so I believe the HO can quite easily wash their hands of this. On the other hand, we can still claim that many highly qualified workers these days have to travel a lot around the world for business reasons. And it is a well-known fact that even Schengen visas are not issued if one has less than 3 months on their temporary permit. So, by making us to renew our WPs twice within 15 months, the HO ensures that for six months out of those fifteen we won't be able to travel anywhere other than our home countries. That is, 40 (!) per cent of this time we won't be able to go to research conferences and business meetings, visit clients abroad and exchange experience at international workshops. For many posts, including, but not limited to, research and IT, such restrictions can make working conditions very difficult.nonothing wrote:The reason why is because this type of restriction is a real and had direct effect on people’s lives and it is something that the Home office cannot easily argue against. If we also emphasise this effect, then we have one more angle with which to pressure the government, and this one hits a persons freedom of mobility.
For example, I am a researcher working at a laboratory which is part of two EU consorciums. On top of that, we've got a number of collaborations with the US. Last year, on average, I travelled once in two months to research conferences, consorcium meetings and face-to-face discussions with collaborators. This means that over 15 months I'll have to cancel on average three of such trips, which can have implications for my research.
too right. we're the scapegoats. and HO is whitewashing their incompetence and showing the public a fake scenario of "everthing is under control".supertiger wrote:I watched John Reid's interview on BBC breakfast news this morning. i think their attitude is because they know too difficult to change illegal immigration figures, but they have to do something so set an easier SMARTER target on us. We just need more Brits to know this.
I also absolutely agree with it. For many Brits all the immigrants are the same...nonothing wrote:too right. we're the scapegoats. and HO is whitewashing their incompetence and showing the public a fake scenario of "everthing is under control".supertiger wrote:I watched John Reid's interview on BBC breakfast news this morning. i think their attitude is because they know too difficult to change illegal immigration figures, but they have to do something so set an easier SMARTER target on us. We just need more Brits to know this.
mate, the fuss is not about 5 years.motorbyke wrote:Whats the fuss about 5 years?
The UK government is perfectly justified in changing the immigration rules.
I have to pay 335x2=£670 as my kid is over 18 now. Well, it's quite of money for anyone. My laptop is almost half the price of it I agree, they should've given extensions for free. It is not our fault that the rules have changed...pumkin wrote:The extra year aside, maybe it won't be a big upheaval in some peoples lives. However, I do consider having to pay out an extra £335 a HUGE issue, especially when you are a family and then having to pay out another amount a year down the line. THAT I think is extremely disgusting.
I think emphasis needs to be put on the fact that, if they want to push ahead with this, the LEAST they can do is extend the visas already issued for the 4 year period, for FREE !!!
Check this:motorbyke wrote:Whats the fuss about 5 years?
The UK government is perfectly justified in changing the immigration rules.