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Becoming Irish · Post by **Becoming Irish** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Congratulations Linster. Hope Q will move faster now (Just pretending

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crown · Post by **crown** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:02 pm

Becoming Irish wrote:Congratulations Linster. Hope Q will move faster now (Just pretending :lol: )

12,900 citizenship forms ruled invalid
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire ... 25877.html

ALMOST HALF the 26,100 people who applied for Irish citizenship in the 12 months to June 30th, 2010, have had their applications forms sent back because they didnâ€™t fill them in correctly.

New figures released by the Department of Justice yesterday show its citizenship division is struggling to cope with a deluge of applications, with average processing times now 26 months.

A note on the citizenship divisionâ€™s website warns applicants that 10 per cent of all its resources are wasted on assessing poor-quality applications, which have to be returned. The main reasons are: a failure to provide certified copies of documents (39 per cent); statutory declarations not completed correctly (25 per cent); affidavits needed (15 per cent); supporting documentation needed (10 per cent); name discrepancies between form and certificates of birth and marriage (5 per cent); and forms being incomplete or altered with correction fluid.

In an answer to a parliamentary question from Fine Gael TD Alan Shatter, Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern revealed 12,900 invalid applications were sent back in the year to June 2010. Some 6,200 valid applications were deemed ineligible as the applicant did not meet statutory requirements. Some 5,700 valid applications were approved and 1,400 refused.

â€œThe main negative factors contributing to refusal of naturalisation are where I cannot be satisfied that applicants are of good character and/or have not demonstrated that they are in a position to support themselves and their dependants into the future,â€

Latan · Post by **Latan** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:44 am

....i visited www.kildarestreet.com- during early 2009 minister ahern said himself processing times for citizenship applications would decrease to 18 months !!!

fatty patty · Post by **fatty patty** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:39 pm

I think all the marys and johns in the citizenship section are busy doing x-mas shopping. There won't be any ball rolling in this department until Mid January...when the public servants from this department comes back from their well "earned" and well "deserved" holidays.

Latan · Post by **Latan** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:09 pm

...2 persons i spoke to got their approval-letters- one last friday and the other one yesterday- they are from Bangladesh and India and reside in Cork city, so it looks like business as usual !!

IRISH PHAROE · Post by **IRISH PHAROE** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:39 pm

so latan,
do you know when did hey apply?

Becoming Irish · Post by **Becoming Irish** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:12 pm

Latan wrote:...2 persons i spoke to got their approval-letters- one last friday and the other one yesterday- they are from Bangladesh and India and reside in Cork city, so it looks like business as usual !!

Yes: thatâ€™s true the business is as usual but seems this business is also affected by global crunch. So business is AS USUAL but itâ€™s dead slow and almost ready for liquidation.

Latan · Post by **Latan** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:50 pm

....they applied April and June 2009 respectively....so it looks like it really is down to about 18 months....

aswadref · Post by **aswadref** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:54 pm

are u sure its april 2009 may be its april 2008...i have applied may 2008 and still waiting

IRISH PHAROE · Post by **IRISH PHAROE** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:27 pm

Latan wrote:....they applied April and June 2009 respectively....so it looks like it really is down to about 18 months....

Latan,
I like your attitude and your Optimism,from where you got those in this current climate.
I applied on July 2009 and they did not even ask for further documents, it means at least another 1 to 1.5 year waitting.
fair play man.
regards,
Tarek

Latan · Post by **Latan** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:47 pm

...hi, i just had a look at the INIS web-site and there it states that they are commencing further processing of applications received in early 2009 !! So it seems that the wheel is turning...slowly but it is turning. Also i met a Brazilian-national who told me the Citizenship-section "lost" his application incl. the supporting documentation which he sent by registered mail.....and he applied mid-2008 !! He wasn't informed about re-applying....sounds strange....

Aceform · Post by **Aceform** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:56 pm

Latan wrote:....they applied April and June 2009 respectively....so it looks like it really is down to about 18 months....

Are you sure about that? I've applied in june 2008, and sent my additional docs in August 2010. But no word since.

Don't believe 2009 applicants are getting approvals.

Aceform · Post by **Aceform** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:57 pm

Latan wrote:...hi, i just had a look at the INIS web-site and there it states that they are commencing further processing of applications received in early 2009 !! So it seems that the wheel is turning...slowly but it is turning. Also i met a Brazilian-national who told me the Citizenship-section "lost" his application incl. the supporting documentation which he sent by registered mail.....and he applied mid-2008 !! He wasn't informed about re-applying....sounds strange....

INIS website is saying that for last 4 months.

Latan · Post by **Latan** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:38 pm

maybe the INIS web-site is a bit out-of-date.....??

flatpack · Post by **flatpack** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:49 pm

Latan wrote:maybe the INIS web-site is a bit out-of-date.....??

u r

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asrpb · Post by **asrpb** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:32 pm

Hi All,
At last the letter with harp arrived today with details on what to do next.

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MY TIME-LINE

APR 2008 = Applied
MAR 2010 = Additional documents requested
MAR 2010 = Additional documents sent
NOV 2010 = File sent to Minister for Decision

DEC 2010 = APPROVED (Letter dated 16/12/10)
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Will Keep you guys updated

P.S >>> Do I have to make an appointment in my local district court ONLY or can I ring some other district court as well? Any Advice ?

Monifé · Post by **Monifé** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:12 pm

Congrats asrpb!!

IRISH PHAROE · Post by **IRISH PHAROE** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:51 pm

congratulations asrpb

flatpack · Post by **flatpack** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:01 pm

congratulations m8, long long way

asrpb · Post by **asrpb** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:17 pm

Thanks guys

Forgot to update yesterday, made an appointment with local district court for oath on 25/01/2011.

crown · Post by **crown** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:13 pm

asrpb wrote:Hi All,
At last the letter with harp arrived today with details on what to do next.

-----------------------------------------------------------
MY TIME-LINE

DEC 2010 = APPROVED (Letter dated 16/12/10)
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Will Keep you guys updated

P.S >>> Do I have to make an appointment in my local district court ONLY or can I ring some other district court as well? Any Advice ?

Congrats

nanette · Post by **nanette** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:54 am

asrpb, I was right all the time...- see. I told you 5 weeks from the 16/11/2010, you should get it. Ahahahahahah. Congraulation

Nanette

nanette wrote: asrpb, relax, you will prove me right in a few weeks...-

asrpb wrote:
Obanta2009 wrote:I am sorry to bust the myth seen on this board that if you are informed on the phone by INIS that your application is been prepared for the minister results in approval "WRONG". My personal experience is that I still got refused after been informed of same.

Another experience is not all law firms know about immigration. Some will charge you big bucks when they are not even familiar with immigration laws. Size and swanky office does not matter. My experience is with a big law firm behind Burlington hotel in dublin 4 eventually it was a small law firm that resolved my issue in a few days the same issue that the big law firm told me will take a long time, might be a thorny issue and asked for a deposit of â‚¬2000. The effective and efficient law firm that knows its onions is a small law firm one lawyer running the show but he had to hand over the firm recently due to issue with the legal council. Note not the the one that spent client money. Charge by small law firm â‚¬100
May be you are right BUT as long as you meet all the criteria set by DoJ i.e. commit to living in Ireland, don't come to the adverse attention of LAW, don't become financial burden on the State etc. I don't see any reason for refusal.

Also, I personally don't see any point in filing your application through a law firm/solicitor unless you don't know how to fill out the form or you think that your case might be rejected. Its a common knowledge that Law firms/Solicitors are just rip off and DoJ doesn't care a bit if your application comes directly or through a lawyer, they'll always take their time and make decisions on individual basis.

nanette · Post by **nanette** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:57 am

Congratulation "asrpb". I was right in telling you that you were already approved...

- Ahahahahaha And 5 weeks from the 16/11/2010. We have learned to know how things work in INIS.

Note: Where are you based (ie. Dublin, Cork ?)....Waiting till the 25/01/2011 for the judge is way too long....in my view. You need your passport quick...

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Slan
Nanette (got citizen in November 2009)

asrpb wrote:Thanks guys

Forgot to update yesterday, made an appointment with local district court for oath on 25/01/2011.

nanette · Post by **nanette** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:59 am

Who else is waiting...Post your history, I will advise your expectations.....

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Nana

indymen · Post by **indymen** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:42 pm

@nanette

time lines for my application are...

applied nov2007
requested for additional docs march 2009
requested for garda card copy july 2009
sent social welfare report, p21, payslips, bank statements sept 2010
they requested for my birth cert again dated oct 2010
called up the dept on 09-12-2010 was told application is with minister

now lets see ur guess work

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