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It' simple, the illegal immigrants can't take up any highly paid jobs and the locals don't want to do cheap labour... and in the end the illegals have to survive somehow... so...nonothing wrote:the HO shows the tame face to the illegal immigrants and shows the tough face to legal immigrants. what a government.
Illegals can do any job they like; they just need to buy an EU passport for £500.olisun wrote:It' simple, the illegal immigrants can't take up any highly paid jobs and the locals don't want to do cheap labour... and in the end the illegals have to survive somehow... so...nonothing wrote:the HO shows the tame face to the illegal immigrants and shows the tough face to legal immigrants. what a government.
If it was that easy to get an EU passport for £500 then the EU (UK) would have been flooded with loads of illegal immigrants making it difficult even to walk on the road..tvt wrote:Illegals can do any job they like; they just need to buy an EU passport for £500.olisun wrote:It' simple, the illegal immigrants can't take up any highly paid jobs and the locals don't want to do cheap labour... and in the end the illegals have to survive somehow... so...nonothing wrote:the HO shows the tame face to the illegal immigrants and shows the tough face to legal immigrants. what a government.
Frankly speaking if you are on HSMP I do not understand why they did not recruited you. WP is different as it has its limitations but HSMP is a good working visa without any conditions. Nobody has ever mentioned my HSMP visa as an obstacle for recruitment. Big consultancies know it very well. Maybe your prospective employer misunderstood your visa status?indian_in_uk wrote:Check this:motorbyke wrote:Whats the fuss about 5 years?
The UK government is perfectly justified in changing the immigration rules.
MY ILR was due on 4th July'06 but because of these change in rules I have to wait for another year and this has cost me in a big way.
I had an interview with a big consultancy, everything went fine, after a number of rounds of interview, they said they are ready to recruit me but they cant because I am on HSMP and dnt have ILR. The lady said I should contact her When I get my ILR and I will be offered a position.
Now, has this been 4 years rule, I would have been working with prestigious consultancy within two months but now because of their stupid policy I am stripped off from a excellent oppertunity.
This is the kind of hard ship people face because of change in these rules and this is what this FUSS is about. Now justify this....
No They did not mis-understood the visa status, I was under the same impression but I have discussed with their HR atleast 10 times now but they do not recruit people on HSMP.sowhat wrote:Frankly speaking if you are on HSMP I do not understand why they did not recruited you. WP is different as it has its limitations but HSMP is a good working visa without any conditions. Nobody has ever mentioned my HSMP visa as an obstacle for recruitment. Big consultancies know it very well. Maybe your prospective employer misunderstood your visa status?indian_in_uk wrote:Check this:motorbyke wrote:Whats the fuss about 5 years?
The UK government is perfectly justified in changing the immigration rules.
MY ILR was due on 4th July'06 but because of these change in rules I have to wait for another year and this has cost me in a big way.
I had an interview with a big consultancy, everything went fine, after a number of rounds of interview, they said they are ready to recruit me but they cant because I am on HSMP and dnt have ILR. The lady said I should contact her When I get my ILR and I will be offered a position.
Now, has this been 4 years rule, I would have been working with prestigious consultancy within two months but now because of their stupid policy I am stripped off from a excellent oppertunity.
This is the kind of hard ship people face because of change in these rules and this is what this FUSS is about. Now justify this....
I am really surprised especially by Accenture.indian_in_uk wrote:No They did not mis-understood the visa status, I was under the same impression but I have discussed with their HR atleast 10 times now but they do not recruit people on HSMP.sowhat wrote:Frankly speaking if you are on HSMP I do not understand why they did not recruited you. WP is different as it has its limitations but HSMP is a good working visa without any conditions. Nobody has ever mentioned my HSMP visa as an obstacle for recruitment. Big consultancies know it very well. Maybe your prospective employer misunderstood your visa status?indian_in_uk wrote:Check this:motorbyke wrote:Whats the fuss about 5 years?
The UK government is perfectly justified in changing the immigration rules.
MY ILR was due on 4th July'06 but because of these change in rules I have to wait for another year and this has cost me in a big way.
I had an interview with a big consultancy, everything went fine, after a number of rounds of interview, they said they are ready to recruit me but they cant because I am on HSMP and dnt have ILR. The lady said I should contact her When I get my ILR and I will be offered a position.
Now, has this been 4 years rule, I would have been working with prestigious consultancy within two months but now because of their stupid policy I am stripped off from a excellent oppertunity.
This is the kind of hard ship people face because of change in these rules and this is what this FUSS is about. Now justify this....
Try Accenture, Halifax Bank of Scotland, Logica CMG etc.. for permanent jobs they do not recruit HSMP people. I was told this by Halifax bank of Scotland, Logica CMG and Accenture.
and I was selected by Accenturesowhat wrote:I am really surprised especially by Accenture.indian_in_uk wrote:No They did not mis-understood the visa status, I was under the same impression but I have discussed with their HR atleast 10 times now but they do not recruit people on HSMP.sowhat wrote:Frankly speaking if you are on HSMP I do not understand why they did not recruited you. WP is different as it has its limitations but HSMP is a good working visa without any conditions. Nobody has ever mentioned my HSMP visa as an obstacle for recruitment. Big consultancies know it very well. Maybe your prospective employer misunderstood your visa status?indian_in_uk wrote:
Check this:
MY ILR was due on 4th July'06 but because of these change in rules I have to wait for another year and this has cost me in a big way.
I had an interview with a big consultancy, everything went fine, after a number of rounds of interview, they said they are ready to recruit me but they cant because I am on HSMP and dnt have ILR. The lady said I should contact her When I get my ILR and I will be offered a position.
Now, has this been 4 years rule, I would have been working with prestigious consultancy within two months but now because of their stupid policy I am stripped off from a excellent oppertunity.
This is the kind of hard ship people face because of change in these rules and this is what this FUSS is about. Now justify this....
Try Accenture, Halifax Bank of Scotland, Logica CMG etc.. for permanent jobs they do not recruit HSMP people. I was told this by Halifax bank of Scotland, Logica CMG and Accenture.
it's news for me. They have never had any problem with making work permits for their hires. HSMP makes even easier for them. Still...indian_in_uk wrote:The position was for experienced hire.
The reply I got from them is below:
Hi,
Further to your e-mail below and the conversation we had last week, I
have spoken to someone else regarding this and there is still nothing we
can do. The policy stands and we do not accept HSMP visas.
If you do receive indefinite right to work in the UK in the next few
months please do contact me.
Kind regards
They do not sponser Work permits, this is what they told me last year as I was on WP and needed a WP transfer.sowhat wrote:it's news for me. They have never had any problem with making work permits for their hires. HSMP makes even easier for them. Still...indian_in_uk wrote:The position was for experienced hire.
The reply I got from them is below:
Hi,
Further to your e-mail below and the conversation we had last week, I
have spoken to someone else regarding this and there is still nothing we
can do. The policy stands and we do not accept HSMP visas.
If you do receive indefinite right to work in the UK in the next few
months please do contact me.
Kind regards
motorbyke wrote:Whats the fuss about 5 years?
The UK government is perfectly justified in changing the immigration rules.
Robin,RobinLondon wrote:
I don't know how I'm going to proceed at this point. I'm just providing this information to all of you here to see what we're facing. The Home Office have an answer for everything and are able to twist ink to say what they want it to say in opposition to reality. I need to think about what I'm going to do next, if anything.
Best,
R
Accessibility to the HO website is far below industry standard to put it politely. Perhaps if they got some HSMPs to analyze and do a re-fit the site would actually function properly. The local talent is not up to par….supertiger wrote:HO website should be easier accessible at late night.
Nonothing, if you want to analyse the extra cost, you may need to be careful as gaining extra income is not the main purpose of this change, but only a byproduct. So if in the near future, any of our lobbying works HO's compromise will start from the lightest ones, Let's say: exempt the extra hundreds pounds of cost to show their kindness for example... But that apparently is not what we want. So I think you can certainly criticise the raising of cost but maybe better not to make it a target...
Globetrotter wrote: Accessibility to the HO website is far below industry standard to put it politely. Perhaps if they got some HSMPs to analyze and do a re-fit the site would actually function properly. The local talent is not up to par….
Is CL's team really determined to represent Chinese caterings only?Lok is coming down from Birmingham to join other members of Christine Lee's office to visit Chinese Shop owners in Harrow on Sat. They will be happy to meet anyone who affected by the new rules to provide help and assitance on applying PR using the old forms.
Target group, I had extensive talk with Christine over this in an recent interview. I think she is trying her best to be inclusive, but with the limited time, the easiest way for her to make representation to the HO right now is to focus on the Chinese segment. if she makes any more claim, the HO will just say she has no legitimate right to represent the other groups. For example, BVSI cannot claim any represntation of the catering sectors. BUt they all add to a stronger total voice.
On yer bike motorbyke!motorbyke wrote:Whats the fuss about 5 years?
The UK government is perfectly justified in changing the immigration rules.