Tier 4 Extension Form - Section E - Need help!

[kkj]

In Tier 4 extension application form there is section E, Personal History.

The heading says:

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E: Personal History (crimnal convictions, war crimes, etc.)

Question-E1.
Has the student had any crimnal convictions in the United Kingdom or any other country (including traffic offenses) or any civil judgments made against them?

Yes[_]-----No[_]
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I have following questions regarding this:

a) Does student need to show CCJs against them by credit card companies or mobile phone companies? (Not paying unsecured debts, the usual problem with most of students.)

b) If above CCJs are shown in application form, by checking the 'Yes' box and providing details about, what will be the final IMPACT on visa extension application?
It will be refused?
Or it will be delayed?
Or its depends upon the amount of CCJ?
Or UKBA required to pay those CCJs?

Experts help/advice needed!

[kkj]

Anybody have any opinion?

[kkj]

Any idea?

or

No idea?

[makepop1]

i have a similar problem, can some one reply please

[arsenal49]

thats my take on it....

its not upto UKBA to enforce the law etc. They would leave it to relevant authorities.

As far as they are concerned, they will only check if you lied/withheld info in the app form. So, as long as you declare any "convictions" in the app form, caseworker can't refuse your app under the para which says the applicant withheld/lied about stuff on the application form.

Mind you, google official meaning of "conviction". Just because someone has asked you to pay outstanding amount is not same as "conviction". A law court must have issued some sort of sentencing etc. for it to be called a "conviction".

here is what i found on google.

"(criminal law) a final judgment of guilty in a criminal case and the punishment that is imposed"

http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/conviction.htm

You will need to find if non-payment falls under "criminal law" or "civil law". if its a civil law, then i dont think you are convicted, so to speak.

I should point, im not a lawyer, and thats just my opinion which makes sense, to me atleast

regards

[kkj]

Thanks! But the problem is, even lawyers have 'no idea' about this question.

As per my opinion, after discussing the matter with some good lawyers, a most relvent and sensible idea I got is following:

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"This question will help UKBA to mark those students who are near to complete their 10 years legal stay and will apply for 'Naturalization'. This section can impact on their application on a 'good character' requirements."
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What do you guys think on above? If anybody have any idea / opinion, please share!

[shani84]

Hi!
this has nothing to do with UKBA unless u app;ying for indefinite leave to remain

[kkj]

But for ILR, we cannot use this application form. There is separate application form for ILR purpose.

Any other opinion??