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Correct.edinburgh wrote:my understanding is that your Permanent Residence card was issued as a confirmation of your residence as an EEA national (residency criterion only), whereas British Citizenship is considered to be a privilege
The shear fact you were issued 6 points rather than 3 indicates the speed was excessive.Nowhere, in the papers (apart from the document from the policeman) is mentioned that I was doing 103.1 mph, so it will be taken into acount as normal speeding , I think.
Five from which date:Mr Rusty wrote: Therefore you will have to wait 5 years from the date of your conviction until you can successfully apply for British Citizenship.
he he he ... what if you get a ms caseworker?Alvin88 wrote:Many thanks for all of you for the reply.....
I really appreciate it.
Five from which date:Mr Rusty wrote: Therefore you will have to wait 5 years from the date of your conviction until you can successfully apply for British Citizenship.
the date of conviction - which 29 of May 2009 (+ 5 years = 30 of May 2014 - i can apply on that date)
or from the hearing in the court (24 of Nov 2009 - which makes it 25 of Nov 2014)?
Could you clarify this for me?
Well, yes, it is up to me - apply for it, or not, but the question is
a) --> would you like to get rid of your £780 (just like this - ie there is absolutely no chance to get the it),
b) --> there is about 70% chance that you won't get it
c) --> there is about 70% chance you will get it.
maybe (just maybe) some kind of explanation to the caseworker, such as below - might increase it to 80% in option c)
(although no one can be sure for 100% of course).
And I won't blame anyone if I won't get it.
Dear Mr Caseworker,
My issue with the Magistrate Court was due to some quirk in the law.
As a holder of an EU license I don't have to exchange it for a UK licence unless I want to.
I wanted to accept the Fixed Penalty Notice, but was unable to do so, due to above.
Therefore, could you be so kind and grant me a British Citizenship, as I am loyal and obedient
and promise to keep that way in the future?
So, I was offered a COFP (= Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty for traffic violations in UK)
but were unable to comply with it because of mine PL licence.
Therefore the issue ended up in the Magistrate Court, so I have to go there, plead guilty,
and pay whatever I had to pay.
I didn't questioned that or challenged it in the court.
I just go there to say - Yes, I am guilty. How can I pay and where and how much?
Does it make me criminal?
Best Regards,
--Me
Or maybe someone can re-word it with better English then mine is.
by the time of court hearing you were NOT convicted (you were suspect)Alvin88 wrote:Five from which date:Mr Rusty wrote: Therefore you will have to wait 5 years from the date of your conviction until you can successfully apply for British Citizenship.
the date of conviction - which 29 of May 2009 (+ 5 years = 30 of May 2014 - i can apply on that date)
or from the hearing in the court (24 of Nov 2009 - which makes it 25 of Nov 2014)?
Could you clarify this for me?
I'm not 100% sure, but I would assume the effective date to measure 5 years would be the date of conviction.Alvin88 wrote:Many thanks for all of you for the reply.....
I really appreciate it.
Five from which date:Mr Rusty wrote: Therefore you will have to wait 5 years from the date of your conviction until you can successfully apply for British Citizenship.
the date of conviction - which 29 of May 2009 (+ 5 years = 30 of May 2014 - i can apply on that date)
or from the hearing in the court (24 of Nov 2009 - which makes it 25 of Nov 2014)?
Could you clarify this for me?
Well, yes, it is up to me - apply for it, or not, but the question is
a) --> would you like to get rid of your £780 (just like this - ie there is absolutely no chance to get the it),
b) --> there is about 70% chance that you won't get it
c) --> there is about 70% chance you will get it.
maybe (just maybe) some kind of explanation to the caseworker, such as below - might increase it to 80% in option c)
(although no one can be sure for 100% of course).
Second:On an initial assessment, as your driving offence was committed over a year ago, and you have paid the fine etc, I do feel that it will be fine to submit an application for citizenship and that it will be approved. Your case worker here will double check this though, and will let you know if she has any concerns in this regard prior to submission of the application.
Two others done over the phone:As a general rule and, from my experience, an application for naturalisation is likely to be refused where there is an unspent conviction, even for minor offences. However every case needs to be considered on its merits. We have succeeded in obtaining naturalisation for clients with far more serious previous convictions in the past.
Guide and Booklet AN wrote:Please note: If you have received more than one sentence for any conviction you should ensure that each seperate sentence is spent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 before you make an application.
For example: If you were convicted for speeding and received a 12 month driving disqualification and a fine - although the driving disqualification would be considered spent at the end of the 12 month period, the fine would not be spent for 5 years. You should therefore wait 5 years before you make an application for citizenship.
Well, I am just curious - one person is saying yes, we can do it for you - fee is .... + VAT. Maybe they are doing it just for the fee (pecunia non olet). Most of them are no winning, no fee agency, or at least they told me so (over the phone or via e-mail) ..... Example:edinburgh wrote:to be honest, i really don't understand you. both the ncs and ho told you there would not be a chance of getting it, but you're still building hopes that an immigration company will miraculously get it for you? they do in some cases, but they're exceptions like someone being stateless, at the threat of being killed in their own country etc. you're not stateless
Next case:If we submit on your behalf the application will not be refused. We do not submit applications unless we are 100% confident in the likelihood of the applications success. If we have any concerns about the application we work them out first - we do not take a chance and submit the appliction. Thus you can rest assured that if your application is submitted by us it will be approved.
If however it is refused due to faulf of our own, our fee will be refunded to you.
Well - Yes, I have done wrong, sorry for that. You don't have to keep telling me about this all the time.also, what's all that stuff about some immigrants starting to work for the ho and making it difficult for you to get citizenship blah blah? are you not right in your head? no-one is making your life difficult for the sake of it - it's the law here that is above all individuals and thank god for that! next time you drive, think! because of your speeding you could have killed someone and let it be a lesson for you.
are not - for obvious reason (I just got one sentence - not more than one; yes - I was convicted for speeding, but not with ban).sushdmehta wrote:Guide and Booklet AN wrote:Please note: If you have received more than one sentence for any conviction you should ensure that each seperate sentence is spent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 before you make an application.
For example: If you were convicted for speeding and received a 12 month driving disqualification and a fine - although the driving disqualification would be considered spent at the end of the 12 month period, the fine would not be spent for 5 years. You should therefore wait 5 years before you make an application for citizenship.
regards
It seems to be my case, indeed..........Q. What happens if my driving licence was issued by an authority other than DVLA (Swansea) e.g. a foreign licence?
Only driving licences issued by the DVLA (Swansea) can have the three penalty points endorsed under the fixed penalty system. Therefore, the matter will have to be dealt with by the magistrates’ court. The court will be made aware that the matter is only being heard at the court because the driver is not in possession of a DVLA driving licence.