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That's true. MBA provision was not a legal precedent however, as there was lobbying to get it, it never got to court and was just given without complications. I think we will be given some arrangement also, what kind, it is hard to say.tall_funky wrote:Guys I’m also hopeful of the transitional period just because of the English common law which works on precedent and we have a very strong precedent in MBA Provision TA.
Mr. Green must be knowing this all too well and thats why he will be giving us the TA.
P.S: My understanding of English law confines to common sense.
Well to be honest with you guys, 2 years PSW no less no more!!fibreman wrote:That's true. MBA provision was not a legal precedent however, as there was lobbying to get it, it never got to court and was just given without complications. I think we will be given some arrangement also, what kind, it is hard to say.tall_funky wrote:Guys I’m also hopeful of the transitional period just because of the English common law which works on precedent and we have a very strong precedent in MBA Provision TA.
Mr. Green must be knowing this all too well and thats why he will be giving us the TA.
P.S: My understanding of English law confines to common sense.
My situation is similar to you, my friend.. but the consultation period ends in January and I am worried that instead of waiting until April, they may just as well abolish the system rightaway giving transition arrangements to ONLY those who are inside the UK, and I am not...jlewisunh wrote:What are the odds of being granted PSW if you have a MA degree from UK institution (King's) and are applying from outside the UK in March? My application will be submitted mid-March (before the April announcement, whatever it is). I think chances are good if you apply before April, no?
I sincerely hope they don't just abolish in before april. i highly doubt they'd do that. EDIT: In fact, the more I think about it, the less likely this seems. After the consultation closes I think they will use the time between then and April to actually decide the new policies. And I think they'll use as much time as possible since it's a very difficult issue to resolve.lavezziisgod wrote:My situation is similar to you, my friend.. but the consultation period ends in January and I am worried that instead of waiting until April, they may just as well abolish the system rightaway giving transition arrangements to ONLY those who are inside the UK, and I am not...jlewisunh wrote:What are the odds of being granted PSW if you have a MA degree from UK institution (King's) and are applying from outside the UK in March? My application will be submitted mid-March (before the April announcement, whatever it is). I think chances are good if you apply before April, no?
I agree... even this govt, which is extremely unfriendly to skilled immigrants, hasn't abolished anything in a flash. For tier 1, it even says there will be special arrangements for those in country... and the change was announced months ahead for it to end in april.tall_funky wrote:Well guy's, I don't think its that easy for them to abolish PSW without Transitional Arrangement.
However, worse cum worse if they do abolish PSW, let's prepare for a long legal journey.
It has, most likely we'll get some arrangement, judging by recent decisions and older ones.tusso wrote:Hey everyone I dnt knw if this has been posted before but it is another example of transitional arrangements.
In this case for MBA applications under Tier 1
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... nsitional/
Basically it gives people who started their MBA in 2008 a chance to still be eligible for Tier 1 even though if they will be closed. This gives me some hope that we will get at least get some sort of transitional arrangements.
Hoping for the best!
Good job matetall_funky wrote:Guys time is running out
Please lobby your local MP and the concerned Ministers:
1) Your local MP
2) Prime Minister (The Rt Hon David Cameron MP)
3) Deputy Prime Minister (The Rt Hon Nick Clegg MP)
4) Home Office Minister (The Rt Hon Theresa May MP)
5) Immigration Minister (The Rt Hon Damian Green MP)
5) Business, Innovation and Skills Minister (The Rt Hon Dr Vincent Cable MP)
6) Minister for Universities and Science (The Rt Hon David Willetts MP)
7) International Development Minister (The Rt Hon Andrew Mitchell MP)
8 ) Leader of Opposition (The Rt Hon Ed Miliband MP)
9) Shadow Home Office Minister (The Rt Hon Ed Balls MP)
You can find all the details on how to lobby at :->
http://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/h ... /lobbying/
All you have to do is to COPY & PASTE.
This is not at all rubbing in their noses.fibreman wrote:Well summarised, tall_funky. However, I think we shouldn't rub it on their nose, what happened with schemes before. It was a different government, also. Labour was for open immigration, they are not. I'm sure they know what happened in past.
I wish and hope that situation is resolved ASAP so that we can concentrate on other imp. things in our life.fibreman wrote: However, if it comes to that, we should use past decision in court, and even
decisions by this govt, since nothing was shut "from next day" even now.
I'm sure we can get some kind of deal, yet to see what it will be. If nothing else, I think they don't want proceedings from students, against universities and further, since it is also very costly, and could in theory, if decision went our way, bankrupt some unis. they don't have the money to give it back to us.
Some of us are also in debt because of coming here, so we want our situation resolved.
damian green tried to downplay things, saying that all thats happened is that a consultation has been underway. no policy change has been announced. the announcement will come 'in the next couple of months' (it better not be before april...im applying for psw in march!) and some of the proposed changes are canceling the policy all together, making it shorter, or restricting it to some types of students. he also said the question of what happens to students who are already in the UK is 'interesting' and that's a main reason for the consultation.tall_funky wrote:Home Office minister Damian Green talks to Nihal about immigration.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b0 ... 27_01_2011
Guys, can you all listen to this and try to make out what Mr. Green is saying about PSW??
jlewisunh wrote:damian green tried to downplay things, saying that all thats happened is that a consultation has been underway. no policy change has been announced. the announcement will come 'in the next couple of months' (it better not be before april...im applying for psw in march!) and some of the proposed changes are canceling the policy all together, making it shorter, or restricting it to some types of students.tall_funky wrote:Home Office minister Damian Green talks to Nihal about immigration.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b0 ... 27_01_2011
Guys, can you all listen to this and try to make out what Mr. Green is saying about PSW??
changes will be announces april 5th i thinlfibreman wrote:jlewisunh wrote:damian green tried to downplay things, saying that all thats happened is that a consultation has been underway. no policy change has been announced. the announcement will come 'in the next couple of months' (it better not be before april...im applying for psw in march!) and some of the proposed changes are canceling the policy all together, making it shorter, or restricting it to some types of students.tall_funky wrote:Home Office minister Damian Green talks to Nihal about immigration.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b0 ... 27_01_2011
Guys, can you all listen to this and try to make out what Mr. Green is saying about PSW??
All in all, nothing new... since rules usually start from april, the changes must be announced soon. In any case, I don't think they will impact those who are finishing right now.