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http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... of-the-pbsarsenal49 wrote:so let me get this straight...
if the job title, according to second link provided above, is NOT at NQF4+ then there is no chance for getting tier 2 visa , if we assume that government accept these findings.
any comments?
where the f**k are they getting their salary data from? have you looked at the salary levels, and that too in this recession? who the hell would pay a graduate that much salary?fibreman wrote:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... of-the-pbs
arsenal, page 39 and further, table 3.2 lists all the occupations which will no longer qualify for tier 2 but did before... these I guess are removed from April.
Govt is sure to accept this, I think. In any case, objective achieved... even less people can apply now.
Data relates only to full time employees, and here u have a span from 25 year olds to 50+ year olds. Which means you are unlikely to start on that salary anyway(distribution skewed right).arsenal49 wrote:where the f**k are they getting their salary data from? have you looked at the salary levels, and that too in this recession? who the hell would pay a graduate that much salary?fibreman wrote:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... of-the-pbs
arsenal, page 39 and further, table 3.2 lists all the occupations which will no longer qualify for tier 2 but did before... these I guess are removed from April.
Govt is sure to accept this, I think. In any case, objective achieved... even less people can apply now.
those idiots in westminster have really screwed us this time around. i hope they realise that.
Arsenal calm down.arsenal49 wrote:where the f**k are they getting their salary data from? have you looked at the salary levels, and that too in this recession? who the hell would pay a graduate that much salary?fibreman wrote:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... of-the-pbs
arsenal, page 39 and further, table 3.2 lists all the occupations which will no longer qualify for tier 2 but did before... these I guess are removed from April.
Govt is sure to accept this, I think. In any case, objective achieved... even less people can apply now.
those idiots in westminster have really screwed us this time around. i hope they realise that.
arsenal49 wrote:Life is not fair...
it never was....
it never will be....
survival of the fittest.....
govt needs votes......
voters are dumb enough to believe that immigration is a "bad" thing even though they dont kow what "bad" really means....
someone has to be at the receiving end of "government measures". unfortunately, at this junction of time, non-EU students are....
so, whatever, just roll with it.....
sorry for getting all philosophical about it.
cheers
ps. this post is not aimed at any 1 person and is the result of reading the title of this post!
Well to be honest we can say T2 is OPEN for Master's or Phd only??fibreman wrote:Data relates only to full time employees, and here u have a span from 25 year olds to 50+ year olds. Which means you are unlikely to start on that salary anyway(distribution skewed right).arsenal49 wrote:where the f**k are they getting their salary data from? have you looked at the salary levels, and that too in this recession? who the hell would pay a graduate that much salary?fibreman wrote:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... of-the-pbs
arsenal, page 39 and further, table 3.2 lists all the occupations which will no longer qualify for tier 2 but did before... these I guess are removed from April.
Govt is sure to accept this, I think. In any case, objective achieved... even less people can apply now.
those idiots in westminster have really screwed us this time around. i hope they realise that.
I am not sure how the points will be give for salary from april, though. I only hope there are really no limits for inside country applicants. For me, this my be an improvement actually. It seems to me that, other than exceptions given, for outside applicants, everything will be rationed by salary, with even tougher thresholds.
tall_funky wrote:
Well to be honest we can say T2 is OPEN for Master's or Phd only??
I know Bachelor is OK but I was talking practically they have excluded Bachelor's(may be Oxbridge graduates can qualify).fibreman wrote:tall_funky wrote:
Well to be honest we can say T2 is OPEN for Master's or Phd only??
No, Bachelor is still OK if your occupation is on list and you can earn enough money.
For outside applicants, where things are rationed, then higher education levels will play a role, I think, yes...
While these changes are negative, I am only saying that in some cases it may be an improvement over current interim limits, which apply to intra country applicants also, and cause the threshold for salary to go up a lot.
Over 150k salary, all applicants inside country + some others are also excluded from limits.tall_funky wrote:I know Bachelor is OK but I was talking practically they have excluded Bachelor's(may be Oxbridge graduates can qualify).fibreman wrote:tall_funky wrote:
Well to be honest we can say T2 is OPEN for Master's or Phd only??
No, Bachelor is still OK if your occupation is on list and you can earn enough money.
For outside applicants, where things are rationed, then higher education levels will play a role, I think, yes...
While these changes are negative, I am only saying that in some cases it may be an improvement over current interim limits, which apply to intra country applicants also, and cause the threshold for salary to go up a lot.
As far as I understand, only intra-company transfer's will be exempt from limits.
I agree with you and would like to say to you that whatever happens, happens for a reason because there may be things which we can't see but God can see everything and He always works in our best interest.arsenal49 wrote:@tall_funky
i just had to swear after reading the new proposals....
maybe i will calm down in the morning and think with cool head...
for now, f**k you mofo's for playing with future of thousands, at the stroke of a pen.
I wonder also. I assume that if you were on psw say, it will stay the same(6 months etc.). Milkround recruitment also would not change.arsenal49 wrote:will they impose a requirement to conduct market labour test after April 2011? anyone heard/read anything in this regard
cheers
extracted fromIn November, the government announced that it intends to raise the minimum skill level for jobs under Tier 2 from National Qualifications Framework (NQF) level 3 to graduate level.
In December the government asked the Migration Advisory Committee (MAC) to advise on the following two questions:
1. What standard occupational classification (SOC) codes should be considered as graduate level occupations for the purposes of Tier 2 of the points-based system?
2. How should the current shortage occupation lists for the UK and Scotland be revised to remove jobs below graduate level?
The Committee was asked to use NQF level 4 and above as the benchmark for graduate level for this commission. The Committee's report detailing recommended NQF level 4 and above occupations for the purposes of Tier 2 was published on 7 February 2011. This answers question 1 above. A report addressing job titles on the shortage occupation list in occupations below graduate level (question 2) will be submitted to the government during February and published shortly afterwards.
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http://www.migrantsrights.org.uk/news/2011/mac-publishes-list-graduate-level-occupations-tier-2