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tvt wrote:As a leading immigration lawyer told me, it is not by accident that the 4-5 year change is coincided with the new point based system.
The aim is to reduce the number of economic migrants qualifying for settlement so as to pick and choose only the ones who will bring substantial contribution to the UK.
frankly speaking I have a little doubt about that they will apply point basesd system to us next year.andhraguy wrote:tvt wrote:As a leading immigration lawyer told me, it is not by accident that the 4-5 year change is coincided with the new point based system.
The aim is to reduce the number of economic migrants qualifying for settlement so as to pick and choose only the ones who will bring substantial contribution to the UK.
Yes, this could be the idea of HO. I don't think they will ask all WP/HSMP holders to reapply for new visa. However they can link point system to ILR for all work related categories. When a person applies for ILR they will assess him agianst point system before granting ILR.
With that they can convey a strong message to british public that they are only allowing high skilled economic migrants to settle.
What do you guys think??
http://www.vbsi.org.uk/index.php?page=f ... nts_systemMunneRaja wrote:where did you get this information?
I think it will only apply to HSMP candidates for which I do support the govt. to some extent in this case.sowhat wrote: frankly speaking I have a little doubt about that they will apply point basesd system to us next year.
frankly speaking I find it a bit offensive that you base you opinion about HSMP visa holders on six interviews. Come on, it's not nice bashing people here for dubious reason.olisun wrote:I think it will only apply to HSMP candidates for which I do support the govt. to some extent in this case.sowhat wrote: frankly speaking I have a little doubt about that they will apply point basesd system to us next year.
I think "Highly Skilled" Migrant program has been too lenient especially in the work experience area.
After interviewing half a dozen HSMP candidates from the sub-continent(The interview was conducted along with others in my company) , we still wonder how these guys qualified for the HSMP visa... None of them could answer questions based on what's written on their CV...
One guy wrote in his CV he had setup the production servers in his last company and he was managing and supporting them.
When we questioned him further we found out that all he did was copy files across.
People who are really qualified will have no problems getting thru and it will filter out the candidates who shouldn't have been granted the visa in the first place.
This is just my thought, I hope I have not offended anyone
I don't think I have done any bashing on people for dubious reasons.. I have just posted our experience with HSMP candidates and also EU nationals.... And the HSMP candidates being the majority of the rejects.sowhat wrote:frankly speaking I find it a bit offensive that you base you opinion about HSMP visa holders on six interviews. Come on, it's not nice bashing people here for dubious reason.olisun wrote:I think it will only apply to HSMP candidates for which I do support the govt. to some extent in this case.sowhat wrote: frankly speaking I have a little doubt about that they will apply point basesd system to us next year.
I think "Highly Skilled" Migrant program has been too lenient especially in the work experience area.
After interviewing half a dozen HSMP candidates from the sub-continent(The interview was conducted along with others in my company) , we still wonder how these guys qualified for the HSMP visa... None of them could answer questions based on what's written on their CV...
One guy wrote in his CV he had setup the production servers in his last company and he was managing and supporting them.
When we questioned him further we found out that all he did was copy files across.
People who are really qualified will have no problems getting thru and it will filter out the candidates who shouldn't have been granted the visa in the first place.
This is just my thought, I hope I have not offended anyone
olisun wrote: I think it will only apply to HSMP candidates for which I do support the govt. to some extent in this case.
I think "Highly Skilled" Migrant program has been too lenient especially in the work experience area.
After interviewing half a dozen HSMP candidates from the sub-continent(The interview was conducted along with others in my company) , we still wonder how these guys qualified for the HSMP visa... None of them could answer questions based on what's written on their CV...
One guy wrote in his CV he had setup the production servers in his last company and he was managing and supporting them.
When we questioned him further we found out that all he did was copy files across.
People who are really qualified will have no problems getting thru and it will filter out the candidates who shouldn't have been granted the visa in the first place.
This is just my thought, I hope I have not offended anyone
I am quite pessimistic about EDMs. There are already 3 of them, but still the number of MPs signed them is very small. Also they are very much party based. The last one is mostly signed by Labour, while the previous is premdominately Lib-Dems.chibuya wrote:Andrew Dismore 's new EDM seems to be a new direction- which is to fight for a better transitional deal with HO- which require the people already hold WP/HMSP to apply under the old 4 years rule.
This will then effectively move the retrospective element.
However I think it is a big tenous to start the legal action only base on the retrosepctive legalisations.. Unless we have very strong prove , anyone could contribute the documents you got before the change of the rules ...
All in all a better angel to fight the battle may need to be considered?
john, i've forwarded your proposal to VBSI and CL. VBSI is working with CL again considering a special demo in LB's backyard. at the meanwhile CL is trying to set up a meeting with LB. we might need to see how the meeeting goes, before we decide how to dedicate the special event to LB. john, thanks a lot for your proposal, please keep in touch.John wrote:It is proposed to hold a demonstration outside an Advice Bureau being held by Liam Byrne, MP for Birmingham Hodge Hill, and now the Immigration Minister.
Do you live in Hodge Hill constituency? If so could you please make yourself known.
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The hearing was yesterday but at this moment in time the minutes are not available on the UK Parliament website.Supertiger wrote:anywhere can find results of that "2nd DLSC Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules (HC 1016), 10.30am, Room 6"?
that's only for tier 1 visa. and there're 5 tiers in the point-based system. tier 2 is for the people like current WP holders.Dawie wrote:However I thought the whole point of the points system was that people wouldn't have be sponsored by a company and could come here on their own merits without having to find a job first (similar to HSMP).
T1/T2 only apply to work/ investment related visas, and ancestral visa is not mentioned in any of the 5 tiers, so it should belong to "other category" and therefore safe, at least for the time being.Miss Oceania wrote:Does anyone know if they will try and apply the points system to those applying for ILR from an ancestry visa? If they do this, then I will be stuffed!