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And that's exactly why I would think you shouldn't waste any more energy on that matter.mcovet wrote:When i say worded cautiously i mean it is not requesting the passport to be sent back but rather asking that if it is convenient could u pls etc. Thats because they r themselves unsure as to the legality of the request.
86ti wrote:Didn't mean to insinuate any impropriety. I just thought that a good argument as to why two passports are held would be the easiest way to shut them up. It doesn't need much imagination to see why having more than one passport is perfectly legitimate.
And that's exactly why I would think you shouldn't waste any more energy on that matter.mcovet wrote:When i say worded cautiously i mean it is not requesting the passport to be sent back but rather asking that if it is convenient could u pls etc. Thats because they r themselves unsure as to the legality of the request.
Really? What happens when the oldest passport / RC expires? Does the holder become less functional in his day-to-day life? Will he need another RC to cope?Keffers, u have missed the point entirely.
keffers wrote:Really? What happens when the oldest passport / RC expires? Does the holder become less functional in his day-to-day life? Will he need another RC to cope?Keffers, u have missed the point entirely.
Are they passports for different countries?
Other than being awkward or wanting two passports for an ulterior motive, I really can't see any reason why your client should be getting so uptight about it all.
With this sentence I do agree, but the truth is very different from what daddy thinks!daddy wrote:Why argue about this, the trueth is clear
You really need to back up your claims. As a matter of fact, some countries do allow that, at least under certain circumstances, e.g. here some info for Austria and Germany. Those pages also give examples why a second passport would be needed.daddy wrote:to make this short, it is illegal to have 2 passports of same nationality valid
What makes you think that anyone owes you an explanation of anybody's personal circumstances?keffers wrote:Still no elaboration on the mysterious case of why someone needs two passports and two RCs.
If people stopped being "petty" about their rights reminding the system that it is not at liberty to do as it pleases but rather to operate within confines of the law, then you and everyone else who are so "up front" with the system (and so averse of the "petty" people) would most likely be waiting for their RCs etc. for much longer (and would be asked to satisfy more requirements and provide more documents during applications etc. etc. etc.).If people stopped being so petty about their 'rights' and trying to twist and turn the system to suit themselves, UKBA would have much more time to issue RCs etc to those who who are completely up front and not on some sort of mission to prove a point.
And therein lies the problem. Whose interpretation? Why waste time proving a point against the 'system'? People should just move on. Unless a genuine reason can be given as t why someone needs two valid passports (presumably in the same name) with two valid Rcs, then what is the point of arguing the toss.If people stopped being "petty" about their rights reminding the system that it is not at liberty to do as it pleases but rather to operate within confines of the law
keffers wrote:And therein lies the problem. Whose interpretation? Why waste time proving a point against the 'system'? People should just move on. Unless a genuine reason can be given as t why someone needs two valid passports (presumably in the same name) with two valid Rcs, then what is the point of arguing the toss.If people stopped being "petty" about their rights reminding the system that it is not at liberty to do as it pleases but rather to operate within confines of the law
What happens when one of the passports becomes out of date? Another challenge to the 'system' and a new campaign to have another RC issued in a new second passport?
As long as there are no such requirement in the LAW no one owes the "system" to justify anything. The "system" is there to serve and not to harass people by requiring them to justify whatever it deems needs justifying.keffers wrote:Unless a genuine reason can be given as t why someone needs two valid passports (presumably in the same name) with two valid Rcs, then what is the point of arguing the toss.
There would not be any "campaigns" if the "system" was just doing its job instead of treating everyone as a potential criminal trying to abuse the poor "system". (ever heard of the "presumption of innocence"?)What happens when one of the passports becomes out of date? Another challenge to the 'system' and a new campaign to have another RC issued in a new second passport?
Beg to differ... My husband, Dutch nationality, has two VALID Dutch passports for business reasons. First is 5 years valid and second is renewed after two years. Nothing 'ulterior' or 'illegal' about it! By the way, there are MORE european countries with similar regulations. So please get your facts right before you make sweeping statements.daddy wrote:to make this short, it is illegal to have 2 passports of same nationality valid