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Exempt from changes in immigration rules.surajban wrote:1) Pre Apr 2006
2) Pre Nov 2006 HSMP
All WP migrants applying for settlement: must be free from unspent convictions and must provide a letter from employer as specified in 134 (iv)surajban wrote:3) Pre Nov 2006 workpermit
and Tier 1 (General) migrants: - must be free from unspent convictions, and must fulfil the eligibility criteria (read page 30 - 33).surajban wrote:4) After Nov 2006 HSMP
Date of application ... not the date of decision / entry in UK.nmehta wrote: they assess against my date of application (which is before 31st March) but will not hold true if they consider it against the date when Tier 1 was granted (17th April 2009).
Thanks sushdmehta. I just noticed Page 31, point 13 i.e. Qualification Notes also use the words "Under the rules in place between...." which is in line with your comments.sushdmehta wrote:Date of application ... not the date of decision / entry in UK.nmehta wrote: they assess against my date of application (which is before 31st March) but will not hold true if they consider it against the date when Tier 1 was granted (17th April 2009).
I think also says if you got another visa (for e.g Tier 1) after initial visa (i.e. HSMP) then the criteria will be applied for the Tier 1 and not HSMP?sushdmehta wrote:The response, above your post, applies, i.e. - date of HSMP application.
Sushdmehta can you please also confirm the above things as it will clear to everyone.salina02 wrote:So I think we almost clear with the following things for HSMP applicants (pre nov 2006)
1) No Criminal Convictions
2) No Salary Criteria
3) No LIUK Test
As Dependants follow main applicants so i hope the same with them by adding the no requirement for 2 years continuous stay (depends upon the case worker).
Kind Regards
Salina02
How can someone be switch into Tier 1 after having HSMP, As far as I know it can only be Extending.sushdmehta wrote:Well, all I can say with certainty is, that:
1. Migrants covered by HSMP JR (any one who applied for HSMP approval prior to 07-Nov-06) are exempt from these new changes irrespective of whether they applied for extensions using Tier 1 (General) eligibility criteria (because they scored enough points at the time or because HSMP JR policy was not yet in place at the time or any other reason) or whether they applied for extension under the provision of HSMP JR policy. If you are covered by HSMP JR, you are covered. Period!
2. If one switched from HSMP to Tier 1 (General), then an HSMP migrant covered by HSMP JR loses the protection offered by the court decision. Please note that one needs to understand the difference between "switching" and "extending" to understand the meaning of this sentence.
3. The date of application is what matters, not the date of decision / entry clearance / entry / leave to remain is stamped.
For ILR in June-2011, please can anyone suggest what evidence needs to be presented esp with regards to "two or more sources"?Previous earnings notes wrote:...19. Specified documents from two or more sources must be provided as evidence for each source of previous earnings...
My opinion - the same type of documents that one needs when applying for (Tier 1 (General)) extension.kunald wrote:For ILR in June-2011, please can anyone suggest what evidence needs to be presented esp with regards to "two or more sources"?
it's so simple your age will be based on the date your first HSMP/Tier1 visa was granted(assuming you haven't switched to any other after that).psdesai wrote:Here's the situation.
I checked my last Visa (Tier 1 (extension from HSMP) Document - the one you get when you have been issued visa May 2009). And I got 20 points for my age. Now if I see the proposed document (table2 page 30) it says I only get 10 points!!! if I use my last leave as Tier 1.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
How does this change, I dont have control over my age for crying out loud.
(btw I get same points now for the salary as before).
The following para on page 33 in the document really confuses me. What age points do I score. I would really really appriciate if someone can clarify this.
age: notes
(I)
33. if the applicant was first granted leave in the categories of Highly skilled Migrant, Writer, Composer
or artist, self-employed lawyer or Tier 1 (General) Migrant and has not been granted leave in any category
other than those listed here since the first grant of leave, points will be awarded based on the applicant’s age
at the date of the application for that first grant of leave.
(II)
if the applicant has been granted leave since his first
grant of leave in a category not listed in this paragraph, points will be awarded based on his age at the date
of application for a grant of leave in a category listed in this paragraph where leave has not been granted in
any category not listed in this paragraph between that grant of leave and the current application.
my history
Tier 1 May 2009 (the application when I have scored points)
HSMP Visa Feb 2008 (Given visa on the basis of HSMP Letter)
HSMP Letter Sept 2007 (the application when I have scored points)
WP 2006 (Point based system was not existed for WP)
SEGS
Student
(1) Do I fall under (I) or (II)
(2) What is my "first grant of leave" for age point of view only? Tier 1 or HSMP Visa or HSMP Letter or even WP? (choosing anyone of this will affect my age and hence points)
Many thanks for taking time to read this.
did you have to extend your visa after August 2008? or are you still on the same visa? If you are you get your 30 pointdarksun wrote:I apologise if I'm panicking for nothing. I just want to have your opinion as well.
I came uk 2006 may with WP. Switched to Tier 1 on August 2008. No HSMP at all..
So will I be able to get 30 points for bachelor degree for qualifications ?
Because for a second, when i was reading paragraph 13, b, ii; i've intrepreted that I won't get any points for qualifications?
Once again sorry for my silly question...
Cheers
navodwickra, I know it sounds silly to ask such question. However in My case as you can see from the history. I had HSMP Letter issued in Sept 2007 at the time my age was 'X' then in Feb 2008 my age has gone up to 'Y' and then then in May 2009 I got Tier 1 that time my age has gone up to 'Z'.navodwickra wrote:it's so simple your age will be based on the date your first HSMP/Tier1 visa was granted(assuming you haven't switched to any other after that).psdesai wrote:Here's the situation.
I checked my last Visa (Tier 1 (extension from HSMP) Document - the one you get when you have been issued visa May 2009). And I got 20 points for my age. Now if I see the proposed document (table2 page 30) it says I only get 10 points!!! if I use my last leave as Tier 1.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
How does this change, I dont have control over my age for crying out loud.
(btw I get same points now for the salary as before).
The following para on page 33 in the document really confuses me. What age points do I score. I would really really appriciate if someone can clarify this.
age: notes
(I)
33. if the applicant was first granted leave in the categories of Highly skilled Migrant, Writer, Composer
or artist, self-employed lawyer or Tier 1 (General) Migrant and has not been granted leave in any category
other than those listed here since the first grant of leave, points will be awarded based on the applicant’s age
at the date of the application for that first grant of leave.
(II)
if the applicant has been granted leave since his first
grant of leave in a category not listed in this paragraph, points will be awarded based on his age at the date
of application for a grant of leave in a category listed in this paragraph where leave has not been granted in
any category not listed in this paragraph between that grant of leave and the current application.
my history
Tier 1 May 2009 (the application when I have scored points)
HSMP Visa Feb 2008 (Given visa on the basis of HSMP Letter)
HSMP Letter Sept 2007 (the application when I have scored points)
WP 2006 (Point based system was not existed for WP)
SEGS
Student
(1) Do I fall under (I) or (II)
(2) What is my "first grant of leave" for age point of view only? Tier 1 or HSMP Visa or HSMP Letter or even WP? (choosing anyone of this will affect my age and hence points)
Many thanks for taking time to read this.
Of course they know you don't have any control over your age that's why they consider your age at the time you got your first visa. Is it that hard to understand when the table heading says "at date of application for first grant" ?