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When would she need that settlement visa? To visit? or just once we are married? and if so, would she need it before we are married so its ready for when she comes, or can she come here first then apply after a week or two once she is moved in?sushdmehta wrote:She will need a visa, a settlement visa.
Before she travels to UK to live with you (long term or permanently).anthony2804 wrote:When would she need that settlement visa?
An application for entry clearance as "spouse" can only be made after you two are married.anthony2804 wrote:would she need it before we are married so its ready for when she comes
A visitor is not allowed to switch immigration category. A visitor must leave UK and make an application for entry clearance under the category that he/she qualifies for, from outside the UK.anthony2804 wrote:or can she come here first then apply after a week or two once she is moved in?
I dont get this...sushdmehta wrote:Before she travels to UK to live with you (long term or permanently).anthony2804 wrote:When would she need that settlement visa?An application for entry clearance as "spouse" can only be made after you two are married.anthony2804 wrote:would she need it before we are married so its ready for when she comes
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She cannot fly straight back after the wedding unless it's as a visitor. For her to settle in the UK with you she has to apply for a settlement visa in her home country. So either you both stay in DR until her visa is approved, or you fly back to the UK alone and she follows once her visa is approved.anthony2804 wrote:I dont get this...sushdmehta wrote:Before she travels to UK to live with you (long term or permanently).anthony2804 wrote:When would she need that settlement visa?An application for entry clearance as "spouse" can only be made after you two are married.anthony2804 wrote:would she need it before we are married so its ready for when she comes
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How can she apply before she travels to live with me? Yet only apply after were married....
If we get married then fly back here, you're saying she has the duration of our return flight to apply? How can that work?
I want to marry her there, then fly straight back here to live, but that isnt possible?
Oh dear, that makes it tricky. I can't leave my job so id have to come back, and she is a devout Christian and wouldn't live apart if married so i couldn't return alone and wait for her application. Catch 22 :Salanakaja1980 wrote: She cannot fly straight back after the wedding unless it's as a visitor. For her to settle in the UK with you she has to apply for a settlement visa in her home country. So either you both stay in DR until her visa is approved, or you fly back to the UK alone and she follows once her visa is approved.
Tell me about it. My husband is back in Alaska just now and has been for the past 8 weeks. He has just recently submitted all his docs and application for his settlement visa. There is no guarantee that it will be approved either It's doing our head in being apart this long. Whats even worse is that I am 29 weeks pregnant and hate not having him here with me.anthony2804 wrote:Oh dear, that makes it tricky. I can't leave my job so id have to come back, and she is a devout Christian and wouldn't live apart if married so i couldn't return alone and wait for her application. Catch 22 :Salanakaja1980 wrote: She cannot fly straight back after the wedding unless it's as a visitor. For her to settle in the UK with you she has to apply for a settlement visa in her home country. So either you both stay in DR until her visa is approved, or you fly back to the UK alone and she follows once her visa is approved.
I feel really stuck right now. why is this so difficult.
alanakaja1980 wrote:Tell me about it. My husband is back in Alaska just now and has been for the past 8 weeks. He has just recently submitted all his docs and application for his settlement visa. There is no guarantee that it will be approved either It's doing our head in being apart this long. Whats even worse is that I am 29 weeks pregnant and hate not having him here with me.anthony2804 wrote:Oh dear, that makes it tricky. I can't leave my job so id have to come back, and she is a devout Christian and wouldn't live apart if married so i couldn't return alone and wait for her application. Catch 22 :Salanakaja1980 wrote: She cannot fly straight back after the wedding unless it's as a visitor. For her to settle in the UK with you she has to apply for a settlement visa in her home country. So either you both stay in DR until her visa is approved, or you fly back to the UK alone and she follows once her visa is approved.
I feel really stuck right now. why is this so difficult.
We were planning on having 2 weddings, but the legal one over there. also, the option 2, how does that work if we havent been living together for 2 years? We have been dating for 3 years but haven't lived together.... These rules are so dumb, how do they expect us to live together for 2 years if they wont let her live here.sushdmehta wrote:Let me try differently.
Options:
1. Apply for entry clearance as a spouse. To apply for entry clearance in this capacity (spouse) you two must first be married. So "I want to marry her there, then fly back immediately with her to live here" does't seem possible because as per statistical information published by UKBA, it takes 10-60 working days for a settlement visa to be issued in Dominican Republic.
2. Apply for entry clearance as "unmarried partner". If you have been living together in a relationship akin to marriage for at least 2 years and can provide the evidence of the same, she may apply for entry clearance in this capacity (unmarried partner) even today. After been granted visa, she may travel to UK anytime she wishes to - even before the wedding - to live with you. You two may then travel to DR /CR to get married (or where ever you decide to marry), get married, return to UK immediately after marriage, and then she may apply for extension of leave (from within the UK) as your spouse.
Is getting married in UK an option you wish to pursue?
anthony2804 wrote:1. Marry then come back here with her as my wife but as a visitor for 6 months. Then she would have to return to DR and apply fromn there.
If questioned by an IO at a UK port, she may then have to convince the IO as to why she is seeking leave to enter as a visitor despite the fact that she is married to you and intends to live in UK. Expect to be asked - "Why are you entering UK as a visitor when you could have applied for settlement visa?" or "How can you convince me that you will leave UK within the 6 months, and not overstay (continue to live with your husband in the UK but illegally)?".Non-visa nationals wrote:Although non-visa nationals do not normally need visit visas, they are not guaranteed entry into the UK. Visitors must satisfy a UK Border Agency officer that they meet certain visitor requirements and may need to show the officer certain documents in support of their request to enter the UK.
anthony2804 wrote:If no.2, how long should i leave between legal marriage and wedding day, to give enough time for the application to be processed?
Plan accordingly. No one can tell you how much time your partner's application will take.sushdmehta wrote: because as per statistical information published by UKBA, it takes 10-60 working days for a settlement visa to be issued in Dominican Republic.
Yes we are both over 21. My flight for a return there is £300ish, heres one way here is £1200+Casa wrote:The option of fiance visa doesn't appear to have been mentioned. She could apply to enter the UK as your fiance, marry within 6 months and then apply for a Further Leave to Remain visa from within the UK after the wedding, which under current regulations will grant her a 2 year spouse visa. She would then apply for Indefinate Leave to Remain (ILR) at the end of the initial 2 year visa.
A fiance visa is the more costly option, but may solve your problem.
You should read through the application form VAF4a (applicable to spouse settlement and fiance). You will have to meet all the requirements. finance, adequate accommodation in the UK on her arrival, evidence of genuine relationship etc. Marriage to you doesn't give an automatic right to settlement here unfortunately.
Apart from your concern regarding the cost of her flight...are you aware of the cost of the visa fees?
One final point...you're both over 21?
so Fiance Visa £750Casa wrote:Fiance visa = £750*
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After marriage in UK 2 year Further Leave Spouse visa FLR(M) = £850
At the end of initial 2 year visa + £1350 if applied for in person, or £972 postal application. (ILR)
At the end of 3 years stay as spouse British Citizenship = £836.
*If you marry in DR you would pay one fee for settlement of £810 saving the Further Leave fee of £850 applicable to the fiance route.
Whether you choose fiance or spouse settlement (marrying in DR) you would still have to pay for permanent residency (ILR) for your wife after 2 years.
At present the fees appear to be increased every 6 months or so.
Yes.anthony2804 wrote:ok and what about marrying legally before she moves here, and doing the application from her own country for the marriage settlement one.Casa wrote:You've got it! Someone has to pay for the UKBA Xmas party!
all the same charges apart from the fiance visa right?