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Well i hope no one replies to you!! Because of dodgy applicants and bogus colleges and people abusing the system is the reason why there are all these rule changes.suassooze wrote:hey guyz this iz raj from india , i have been rejected for uk visa and a ban of ten years is imposed on me. and untill 2020 my visa applications will be automatically rejected since i had submitted false degree certificates.so on basis of deception they banned me for 10 years .. now my question is does this ban stay for entire european countries like france , germany and italy etc or i am banned from only uk?
and do i stand any chances of getting a schengen visa with proper documents now i mean genuine documents nothing fake this time around ??
please reply
on some EU visa application forms, there may be a question along the lines of "have you been previously refused a visa for any EU countries?" EU countries do share information. so technically, you are only banned from UK but your actions may affect future applications to other EU countries.suassooze wrote:hey guyz this iz raj from india , i have been rejected for uk visa and a ban of ten years is imposed on me. and untill 2020 my visa applications will be automatically rejected since i had submitted false degree certificates.so on basis of deception they banned me for 10 years .. now my question is does this ban stay for entire european countries like france , germany and italy etc or i am banned from only uk?
and do i stand any chances of getting a schengen visa with proper documents now i mean genuine documents nothing fake this time around ??
please reply
I really don't think that will be the case. All decisions for any civilised country is based on laws and rules and I really don't think that French authorities decide on visas based on their supposed dislike of the UK.xleft wrote:Just make new application to EU country and explain in cover letter in this application that you are banned only from UK. Try France, they dont like English and they will be happy to issue you new visa. Just explain in the application that you were banned for false documents in UK for 10 years. They will help you then because historically France often had wars with UK.
What was 'comical' about 86ti's reply??? If anything, his answer bordered on a 'positive' note.suassooze wrote:@xleft and 86ti - please don make this comical . I need answer regarding my application to france . Uk is not part of schengen area so I think I stand a chance and I don think they can reject my visa unless I provide fraudulent documents again . What say guys ? And one more thing . I m not the only one . There are min 500000 applicants last year who provided false documents for uk and banned for ten years. So my question is if all 50000 0 0 people get rejected by schengen just because they are banned from uk then there will be decline in applicants .
Well, while I believe that we all should abide by laws no matter how good or bad a particular law is, all those arbitrary travel/migration restrictions (based on the notion of "nationality" or whatever) that exist today are something that belong somewhere in the "dark ages". Really, how can you condone such restrictions in a supposedly "free" society?mtuckersa wrote:Well i hope no one replies to you!!
In fact it is because this "system" of arbitrary restrictions exist in the first place all those people do what they do to circumvent it.Because of dodgy applicants and bogus colleges and people abusing the system is the reason why there are all these rule changes.
flippin' hell you sound like a communistmastermind wrote:Well, while I believe that we all should abide by laws no matter how good or bad a particular law is, all those arbitrary travel/migration restrictions (based on the notion of "nationality" or whatever) that exist today are something that belong somewhere in the "dark ages". Really, how can you condone such restrictions in a supposedly "free" society?mtuckersa wrote:Well i hope no one replies to you!!
Therefore I think that the more people "abuse" the "system" the better (for example in the US alone there are 12M+ "illegal" people already... I wonder how long will it take to abolish the immigration "system" to only reconcile the law with the actuality of the "free world". Get real! )
Not that I advise anyone to break the law but I find it ridiculous to cry shame upon those who do it. (like you did in your post) In fact they are doing a service to us all by slowly (but inevitably) washing out this ridiculous "system" worldwide
In fact it is because this "system" of arbitrary restrictions exist in the first place all those people do what they do to circumvent it.Because of dodgy applicants and bogus colleges and people abusing the system is the reason why there are all these rule changes.
And you call me a communist? Stop building those insane welfare states (which "provide for" someone) and instead build truly liberal economies Otherwise no one will want to come to these countries soon (except those who want to be "provided for" of course )mtuckersa wrote:flippin' hell you sound like a communist
so people should work hard to build a country/nation that can provide for everyone and then after that just let any tom, dick or harry come in the country that can live off the system?
come on get real
Blipppp!!!! Almost right. For the time being UK does not participate in immigrational information exchange from the EU but not sure if the information flow the other way back to EU from the UK however, in all other matters they do participate. But that is just a matter of time when they will participate fully with the current government at the steering wheel.86ti wrote:The UK has access to the Schengen Information System but as far as I know not to immigration related data.