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Not taking anything away from your point ITGuru, but I don't think there's any room for the DoJ to analyze any pros or cons when it comes to a judgement that has been handed down by the ECJ, the highest court of law in Europe. There is no doubt that that the scope of Zambrano ruling covers such parents of Irish citizens who are on stamp 3 that restricted them from working.ITGuru wrote:Thanks Monifé,
Yes, My Kid is an Irish Citizen and I am living in Ireland for the last 6+ years. When I talked to one of the organisations supporting non national communities, they were not sure about it.
They pointed the following as a reason for that:
Cons:
1. I am already living with my Irish born kid.
2. Even though I cant work my wife is still working and is Stamp 4
3. I doesnt have a threat of deportation since I could legally stay here eventhough I cant work
Pros:
1. My wife cant support the kids and me with one persons income and i have to take the kids out of this country soon to live a standard life.
though they suggested me to write a letter to the Justice dept to change my status.
What all documents would I need along with the letter supporting my case?
Shocking, but no longer surprising behaviour from the Dept of Justice and Equality *coughThe effect in Ireland of the judgment is that the parents of Irish citizen children, no matter what their nationality or immigration status, must be given the right to live and work in Ireland while the children are minors and are dependent on them.
People who believe the judgment affects them may make applications to the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service (INIS) -Those people who think the ruling might affect them should ring our Information and Referral Service on 01 674 0200 or read an information note on our website - http://www.immigrantcouncil.ie/images/s ... n_Note.pdf. A full copy of the judgment can be accessed here: http://curia.europa.eu/jurisp/cgi-bin/f ... ff=C-34/09
- those parents with residence permits that do not give them full access to the labour market may apply to the INIS for a Stamp 4 permit, giving them permission to live and work in Ireland;
those parents of Irish citizen children in respect of whom a deportation order has been issued may apply for revocation of the deportation order and, if necessary, a visa, whether or not they have already been deported;
parents who are already waiting for decisions on applications for permission to live and work in Ireland may update their application with reference to the Zambrano case.
Clarification sought in decision implying second-class citizenship for migrants
An ICI client is seeking urgent clarification from the Government over a decision which implies citizenship by naturalisation does not confer the full rights afforded to citizens of this country.
The ICI is providing support to the woman, who was recently granted Irish citizenship as the widow of an Irish citizen. Ordinarily, widows of Irish citizens are required to pay a reduced fee for citizenship - €200 as opposed to €950. However, our client was shocked when she was informed that she would be required to pay the full €950 fee because her husband "was not an Irish Born Citizen".
Leaving aside the cost issue, this truly appalling decision implies that Ireland has established two different classes of citizen and accords them different rights. We will keep you informed about any developments.
The above sounds good. Not that knowledgeable in this area of immigration but perhaps you could send some utility bills aswell as proof of residence in Ireland. If you are sending in copies, I assume you will have to get them attested. Don't need a solicitor, you can use a commissioner of oaths. It is usually around 10euro.ITGuru wrote:What would be the Documents required for making the application?
1. Copy of the passport of the Irish Born Child
2. Child's Birth Certificate
3. Relevant pages of my passport
4. Copy of my Garda card
Any thing else? Do I need to attest the copies by a solicitor?
All Parents could apply for a Stamp 4 if their Child is an Irish Citizen.oceanstar wrote:i have a question? i do have a irish born eu citizen son, can i able to apply ?
thanks
I would apply today. Just attested all the docs by a solicitor. The dept is still "considering various options" on this issue (How long? For an year!).desibuddy wrote:I am also on the same boat (stamp 3). Can you please share few things like
Have you applied through solicitor or directly.?f through solicitor how much u had to pay them?
Have you heard back anything from INIS ?
Recently i spoke with Entemp but they directed me to INIS.
Thanks
So many different addresses conveyed by various agencies. Any way I send to Change of Status section at INIS. But would be happy to send another application to the "Irish Born Child Unit" address as well.Reetu wrote:When i had contacted Immigration council, I have been advised to send written application with all supporting documents to following address, but informed that there is no need to attest any documents:-
Irish Born Child Unit,
Department of Justice and Equality,
PO Box 10003,
Dublin 2.
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I dont think so. Usually if they need any thing else they would write back to you regarding that.Reetu wrote:
Or else do i need to send another application again with fully attested supporting documents including utility bill.
Kindly advise somebody.
thanks
You should be applying via EUFAM1 (spouse of EU citizen) not via Zambrano ruling. This is for non-EU immigrants (documented/undocumented) to avail on the basis of their national citizen children (national in the country they are residing meaning Irish child for Ireland residency, French child for France residency etc)oceanstar wrote:but my son is eu citizen he born in ireland,,,,,, not irish citizen,,,,becos my husband from eu and i m non eu.
they only say irish citizen ,still can i ?
I suggest you should contact the Irish Embassy in AbujaLADYB wrote:Please, I'll like a clarification. I have an Irish Citizen Child but I am Nigerian, I am currently not in Ireland as I have since returned to my country with my child since I was not given the Residency when I applied in November, 2007.
I want to know the process of returning to Ireland with my child to apply for this Residency and work permit.
Thank you
Lady B,Please, I'll like a clarification. I have an Irish Citizen Child but I am Nigerian, I am currently not in Ireland as I have since returned to my country with my child since I was not given the Residency when I applied in November, 2007.
I want to know the process of returning to Ireland with my child to apply for this Residency and work permit.
Thank you
I have all the above listed documents attested.Which application form should I fill up? [/quote]Monifé wrote:The above sounds good. Not that knowledgeable in this area of immigration but perhaps you could send some utility bills aswell as proof of residence in Ireland. If you are sending in copies, I assume you will have to get them attested. Don't need a solicitor, you can use a commissioner of oaths. It is usually around 10euro.ITGuru wrote:What would be the Documents required for making the application?
1. Copy of the passport of the Irish Born Child
2. Child's Birth Certificate
3. Relevant pages of my passport
4. Copy of my Garda card
Any thing else? Do I need to attest the copies by a solicitor?