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Well, we are not in the position to sue because we don’t have resources; otherwise it’s a piece of cake case that can be win in no time.bobobo wrote:The sad thing is that you dont understand a very simple thing which is that many promises were made by the Universities that you could work after finishing your studies. They made a promise as per the Immigration rules that existed then, If these change you are in no position to sue either. As the universities did not explicitly say that you would get a PSW even if the Immigration rukes were to change...You should have read the small print I guess.....
Well its not me saying, its MAC, cross-party home affair committee report, British council, MPs, all Universities, colleges plus last not least their own so-called consultation result which they ignore very insolently and rudely which is quite offensive by it self as wellbobobo wrote:Again the HO has given a TA of 1 year, you cant demand waht you would want. They can easily go to court and say we have given 1 years TA and that should suffice, They dont need to give TA to students who have been in the UK for 3years doing their undergrad
Well no need to read the news, making cheap headline is an old tactic. Look around yourself, I seen many guys importing east European people for shame marriages, and HO issuing them spouse visas powerlessly because there is nothing they can do. Arresting few couples and making documentary in BBC is not even a half reality, those who want to settle here in any price knows very well there is no other way around.bobobo wrote: Where did you get this idea....do you read the news....
Pride come before a fall man, don’t say these words, or look at the history of their lost immigration cases.bobobo wrote:Offer exists until stock lasts and they can change the rules shenever they want, you cant fight them for changing the rules
None of us is having intellectual conversation here. Nevertheless only an honourable nation knows the dignity of its words and Britain has a long history of ………. anyways never mind.bobobo wrote:Pardon my french but thats a childish statement to make when people are trying to have an intellectual conversation
No one is launching crusades here, and yes we can’t fight by law as well when law makers are thugs as well.bobobo wrote:Take it or Leave it but the changes are proposed for a reason and I know it might be hard to swallow this and you might feel cheated but at the end you need to abide by the Law of the Land.
Well, first of all learn some proper English with spellings.bobobo wrote:Tier4 - If you are so unhappy and fed up with UK then just leave and go back to where you came, I am sick and tired of people like you who bad mouth the country (You would kill to get a passport of)
Be a man many have been affectred by this but I havent seen so much neativity in any one and no one bad mouths UK So much......
Unthankful for what? I am the one who spend hot cash here and haven’t receive any thing back, don’t you think this country owe me thanks.bobobo wrote:Its time to say that people like me HATE to have peopel like you in this country....Unthankful Wretches...thats what you are....
We dont need Selfish people like you in this country...GO BACK
This country owes you nothing you got your degree from UK in exchange for the cash you spent...WE DONT OWE YOU A LIVING....Make a big broacher
Seriously man you really need to improve you English.bobobo wrote:I guess you mean Brochure and I have the bad spellings....ahem!!!
Obviously you don’t owe us a living but PSW.bobobo wrote:This country owes you nothing you got your degree from UK in exchange for the cash you spent...WE DONT OWE YOU A LIVING....
You aren’t native dude, come on, the way you taking a piss ain’t British.bobobo wrote:Nobody is getting personal stop bad mouthing UK you are not the only one who has been affected by this.
I am affected with any immigration change, I dont want people coming and taking jobs in the UK and create problems for the British economy why should we bear your burden...If you came here not for a degree and for a job then my friend your intentions were wrong from the start!!!!!
Mate, while I agreed in earlier of your posts in terms of the difficulty of winning a legal battle against HO since they could counter any argument, I think you should go back and educate yourself a bit more regarding your last post.bobobo wrote: I dont want people coming and taking jobs in the UK and create problems for the British economy why should we bear your burden...If you came here not for a degree and for a job then my friend your intentions were wrong from the start!!!!!
Next to Impossible and don't read it as I'm Possible, if you are not from Oxbridge or may be from top 5 UK Uni's.skepticalgod wrote:Hey guys I have been an ardent reader on this forum & I agree that we should all keep our spirits high for fighting to get the TA.
However I believe in our endevour to do so we should also work sincerly in parallel towards getting a job( > 20000GBP) in the 4 months after graduation.
Pardon me if i am being an idealist but how hard would it really be to find a decent job in those 4 months?
They will not look into your CV, if you don't have work rights .i.e T2 is very very hard to get.skepticalgod wrote: how can we predict the attitute of the recruiters would be when it comes to giving jobs to international students under the new immigration rules?
You can only put your cards, if you are given a chance!!!!skepticalgod wrote: & If i am willing to bust my *ss, & put all my cards/ skills on the table will I assure myself a good job?
I can confirm this... There were like 10 companies that would even look at me w/o work visa, but chances of gettign those places are lottery like... and i'm from one of best unis...ginger_beer wrote:indeed .. i hate to be pesimistic but what aryan2013 said is true ..
more often than not .. NO existing visa to work = NO interview, and your resume will just be binned straight away into the trash can. At least that's my observation from working overseas (in another developed country) previously.
I am in a fairly specialized technical field, have a couple of years of work experience and will graduate with a master's from one of the ancient universities (not oxbridge )in sept 2012 .. and i'm not even confident that i could find a job in the UK by then. This is given the limiting timeframe of only 4 months to find job, and the fact that the list of approved sponsors exclude a lot of SMEs that are more commonly found in my field. If it doesn't go well, then I don't mind leaving the UK and could always go to australia or new zealand .. but other people might feel 'cheated' by this recent development in psw
I agree... even if you are from Oxford, chances are converging to zero... trust me. And techies... I know local unemployed people from Imperial for instance.arsenal49 wrote:the thing is.. its not JUST about finding a job in 4 months. you need to:
1)get a job offer, AND
2) convince your employer to sponsor you , pretty much on a good faith. for example, right now, employers can 'test drive' your (graduate) expertise via psw for 6-12 months before deciding its worth the hassle to sponsor the international student. 4 months is just not enough!
3)All the time you will be running against the time!
thats why psw was so better to stay and look/work for job before moving into permanent role
but, employers do need people to work for them. if you have done a slightly technical degree then im sure your odds are already far better than the history graduate:)
Other than what is quoted below, statement of changes in Immigration Rules (HC 863 and HC 908) make no reference to (changes to) immigration rules for Tier 1 (PSW) category.Post-Study Work wrote:The current Post-Study Work route will be closed from April 2012.
Therefore, until any changes are announced by the govt. / UKBA, Tier 1 (PSW) category will continue to operate as it is until it finally closes in April 2012.7.16 Under Tier 1 (Post-Study Work) wrote:- That, if the applicant is claiming points for a qualification from a Scottish institution, the institution must be on the list of Education and Training Providers list which can be found on the Department of Business, innovation and Skills website, or hold a Sponsor licence under Tier 4 of the Points Based System;
- That, where the institution studied at is removed from one of the relevant lists, points will not be awarded for any award completed after the date the institution was removed from the relevant list.